Omniscient Dumbledore /Snape's guilt

[juli17 at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 135732

 


Alla:

Could you clarify, please? Many Snape defenders are saying  that 
Dumbledore was dying anyway ( either from the after effect of  
un/horcruxing (??) the ring or from drinking the   potion  in  the 
cave, that is why Snape only did what was to come  anyway.

I don't think I am buying DD asking Snape to do somemthing so  evil 
that would hurt his soul even under those conditions ( Dumbledore  
dying soon anyway), but are you arguing that Dumbledore simply asked  
Snape  to kill him, even if he was not dying in order to sacrifice  
himself for some game plan?

If you are arguing it, could you  explain to me  some details of such 
game plan? I understand   that this is all speculation, but I am 
primarily interested  in how  WW would be better served with 
Dumbledore dead


Julie says:
  One theory is that Snape didn't actually AK Dumbledore. We  know
it didn't look like most of the AKs we've seen--Dumbledore flew
off the tower instead of dropping dead, and in death his eyes were
closed and his expression peaceful. Non-verbal spells were heavily
emphasized in HBP, and it may be that Snape used a nonverbal
spell while speaking the AK. We don't know if this is possible, of
course, but neither do we know that it is impossible.
 
I also wonder if Snape could have performed an incomplete AK.
Perhaps Snape didn't really *mean* it, thus couldn't do a full AK,
but he and DD were aware that an incomplete one would do the
trick if DD was already dying. 
 
If either of these cases are true, then some doubt is cast on 
whether Snape has actually performed an Unforgivable, and if
he didn't, then his soul wouldn't be stained. And if Dumbledore
knows this, then he can ask Snape to kill him without endangering
Snape's soul. 
 
This does make one wonder why Snape had a look of hatred 
and disgust on his face, and why Dumbledore had to beg him 
to do it. But even if it isn't a full Unforgivable, Snape is still 
delivering the killing blow to the man who's probably been as
close to a father to Snape as anyone (assuming the man in 
Snape's pensieve memory was his father and wasn't much of
one). That would still be very hard for him to do, if he really is 
DumbledoresMan!Snape.

Whether any of this turns out to be true or not, we'll see. But 
is workable. 
 
Also, I don't think we have to answer why the WW world would
be better off with Dumbledore dead, because it WOULDN'T be.
Not by any stretch of the imagination. But that isn't something
Dumbledore is necessarily considering. In his estimation, if it's
between Dumbledore and Snape (by letting Snape die due to the
Unbreakable Vow), then Snape is more valuable to the WW and
to Harry Potter's defeat of Voldemort. One of them had to go,
and Dumbledore chose himself. 
 
And if Dumbledore decided this before the school year started
(if Snape immediately told him about the Unbreakable Vow), it
could explain why he continued with the second Horcrux mission.
Even if he knew it was likely to kill him in the end, he would 
figure he was on his way out anyway to keep Snape alive, so
he may have done it primarily to train Harry (with the bonus
of getting rid of one more horcrux). 
 
Julie 
 


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