Dumbledore-Puppetmaster

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 135826

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Kathryn Jones <kjones at t...> wrote:
>    I think that we tend to under-estimate Dumbledore in trying to 
> explain his death and activities. He is as single-minded in his 
> endeavors as Voldemort is in his.
> <snip pure excellence in understanding Dumbledore IMHO>


:> One wonders what Dumbledore does with his own 
> thoughts and memories while Snape has his Pensieve.
> 
> KJ

Valky:
Before I start raving how much I agree with you KJ, I'll just give you
a quick answer to this. I suppose, just as was shown in HBP, he'd keep
them in little glass bottles.

I have to admit, if Dumbledore asked Severus Snape for a particularly
telling memory and Snape pulled it swiftly and completely undulterated
from his head, *that* would be an irrefutable reason to trust him.
And your suggestion that Snape may also be handing over memories on
demand to Dumbledore throughout his many years would easily count as a
good reason to trust him. In HBP, Dumbledore shows Harry that its not
a first for bottles of memory to be shared among Wizards, and with a
Past and an ability for Occlumency like Snape has, LV's Legilimency vs
Dumbledores Pensieves is a brilliant comparison KJ!

Let's look at that. 
Legilimens take information by force, without consent, only someone
trained in blocking can prevent it happening. These are the Weapons of
LV. Cruelty - Secrecy - Domination

Pensieves on the other hand are only useful if the memory is
conciously and willingly given. They can be tampered with, but even a
clever Wizard like Slughorn only manages a glaringly obvious job of t.
True he conceals the truth, but he can't conceal the fact that he is
concealing. These are the Tools of Dumbledore. Hope - Truth - Choice.

Yes, they definitely beg to be compared don't they. Especially since
we must know by know these are the weapons/tools that each of the two
great Wizards are using in their dealings with Snape. 

Now many may beg to differ that Dumbledores tools are of any use on a
person like Snape. But I disagree. We have canon that proves
differently, that proves that the use of these exact tools by Harry
has reached Severus, and invoked his curiosity. 

Rather than write it over again I'll point you to the post that
introduces the canon.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/135779

>From here we can become rather interested again in the ambiguity of
Snape. If we like. Or we can just write him off as ESE now, whichever
you like. *shrugs* 

Valky - Who'll be very dissappointed if the Snape debate dies now,
after she has finally climbed down from her perch on the fence. ;D