"Some won't like it"

kempermentor kempermentor at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 1 21:34:58 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 129860

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Tonks" <tonks_op at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "fanofminerva" 
> <drjuliehoward at y...> wrote:
> > 
> > (Julie -- being brought to the keyboard by the use of a mental 
health 
> > diagnosis).  I find it interesting that you have said Harry is 
PTSD.  
> > Aside from his being subjected to life-threatening situations and 
> > seeing someone else killed, how do you see Harry fitting the 
> > criteria?  
> > 
> 
> Tonks:
> We discussed this topic some time ago (in late fall) and I and 
others 
> posted at that time all of the criteria for making such a 
diagnosis. I 
> can try to look for the post, but I understand that these can be 
very 
> difficult to find in yahoomort. Basically Harry fits the DSMIV 
criteria 
> for making that diagnosis, such as nightmare, flashbacks, 
irritability, 
> hyper-vigilance, etc. I think that JKR has done a very good job of 
> protraying someone with that diagnosis.

Kemper now:
Though Harry may experience some of the criteria for PTSD, my 
understanding is that it's not a 'disorder' unless it affects two or 
more aspects of one's life: school, work, social, family.  Which 
isn't to say that Harry isn't experiencing Post Traumatic Stress... 
it's just not a Disorder.

This leads me to my fear of "some won't like it".  This next bit is 
sort of a rant and may include some abreviated, base language much 
like Vernon used...

There has got to be some closure/death ritual for Sirius.  I don't 
necessarily need to read a chapter on it, just a sentence or two to 
know that it was done.

Every adult in OP didn't say shiznit about Cedric's death.
Like...


Arthur:  Have you been lucky enough not to experience loss by death?  
I will wait to rant on you...

Molly: Has lost her twin brothers and fears the death of her husband, 
her children and Harry. You suck, Molly, coddling in fair weather!

Lupin:  Has known isolation because of who he is and has also more 
than likely witnessed deaths during the First War.  You pussy-cat 
werewolf!  There are 27 days in a lunar month that you can sit 
Harry's ass down and have a talk.  You got him through the Patronus 
lessons, but no howl to the death of Cedric?  What's up?

Sirius: Has witnessed the deaths of 12 muggles (and was wrongly 
accused of their deaths) and may have witnessed even more during the 
First War.  He says nothing to Harry.  Eff you, Sirius! Your 
mentoring relationship is lame if not self-serving.


These four had best opportunity to speak with Harry as it was only a 
month or so after Harry's time in the graveyard.  All four know that 
Harry wouldn't seek emotional support from his aunt.

Hagrid:  I hold no resentment towards you as you got to the party 
late and, I'm hoping, you would assume that someone has brought the 
topic up already so why beat a dead thestral.

Albus:  Hmm... it's hard to have a conversation with someone who's 
inner snake wants to kill you, so I am willing to forgive you, Albus, 
but grudgingly.

Minerva:  Closest adult, physically, to Harry during most of OP.  Yet 
you mention nothing except a little criticism regarding his retention 
of Dolores' hidden message in her speech.  Can you transfigure a 
heart?

The only adult who seemed willing to bring it up in his own way was 
Moody, with his mortuary like picture album.  It was a great 
opportunity for Harry to bring up any issue, but Harry didn't really 
know the real Moody and it was in a crowded kitchen/dining room.  But 
good try, Moody!  Maybe you can get it right in HBP...

Kemper, who knows he may be harshing too hard, but holds firmly on 
his opinion regarding Sirius.


 






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