Dept. of Mysteries, "Love" room.

[festuco]

No: HPFGUIDX 129964


> >  There is a saying, I think a quote by one of the Saints, and it goes
> >  like this.  "Love and do as you will."
> 
> K:  This is a saying from Wicca, actually.   I doubt a Catholic Saint 
> would have said it.
> 
Gerry:
This is not a Wiccan saying. 
> 
> >    This implies something of
> >  the "there is no good or evil only power" idea. 
> 

> 
> K:  Again, you are trying to reconcile two diametrically opposed belief 
> systems....the pantheistic Wiccan belief of dualism with the Christian 
> belief of self-sacrificing love.  I don't think it works.

In Christianity you find the dualism: God and their Devil. In Wicca
there is no dualism, the idea of evil is more like the Buddhist idea
of not being awakened. Evil exist but there is no external bad force
to tempt you. What there is in Wicca is polarity. The divine seen as
God an Goddess, two connecting forces that make creation possible. 

The Wiccan crede you mean is An it harm none, do as you Will, which is
an invitiation to live op to your highest expectations, be the best
human being you can possibly be. Not your every day wishes, but to
follow the guidance of your Soul. 

LV to me is typically somebody who missed it in a big way. His idea of
'only power' is the idea of somebody who cannot connect, because good
and evil are ideas that assume relationships. Actually his position is
the pinnacle of loneliness. 

I think it entirely possible that Love is the force in the DoM. Love
in this sense is the binding factor of all religions. 

Gerry