JKR and Inconsistency (was:Re: Sirius and Prank again? Fools Rush...)
horridporrid03
horridporrid03 at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 3 20:51:29 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 129996
>>Eloise:
<snip>
>Actually (sorry) I blame JKR. ;-) I'm stepping back for a minute to
look a this as a piece of writing.
>I think it's incredibly hard to set up this kind of thing without
some inconsistencies creeping in. Sirius trying to feed Snape to a
werewolf is the counterpoint to (and the ostensible reason for)
Snape wanting to feed Sirius to the Dementors.<
Betsy Hp:
Except that's not the sole reason Snape wants to feed Sirius to the
dementors. It's not pure tit for tat. Snape believes that Sirius
betrayed James and Lily, murdered Peter and the muggles, and came to
Hogwarts for the sole purpose of murdering Harry. As far as Snape
is concerned Sirius is continuing down a path he started way back in
school. Yes, Snape is thrilled to finally see Sirius get his, but
he's also convinced that Sirius is guilty of the crimes he's been
accused of. (Keep in mind that Lupin is quite prepared to kill Peter
then and there for those exact same crimes. And Peter is protesting
too.)
>>Eloise:
>The snooping around after MWWP is the superficial reason we are
given for the initial resentment between them (which I quite agree
might have a deeper cause).<
Betsy Hp:
Well, no. Not the *initial* resentment anyway. At least in my
opinion, JKR does a good job of showing that these two (Snape and
Sirius) had not liked each other for a good long while. I was
always under the impression that the snooping around was *because*
of a mutual dislike, not the cause of it.
>>Eloise:
>Unfortunately, the snooping around *ought* to have alerted Snape to
what he might face. It's compounded in OoP by having Snape reading
about werewolves, a detail surely meant to remind us of the
snooping, the resentment, but inconsistent with his decision to
enter the tunnel.<
Betsy Hp:
Hmm, I know others on the list think Snape should have made the
connection between his werewolf studies and Lupin. But I disagree.
For one thing, Snape's battle seems to have been mainly with Sirius
and James. They're the ones he would have been snooping around
after. Lupin, as prefect and as someone who obviously saw little
amusing in the way James and Sirius treated Snape, would have
garnered very little notice from Snape, IMO.
Plus, Lupin is a king at keeping secrets. He's been bred to it
since the day he was bitten. I think his natural inclination is to
say nothing until you absolutely have to and even then, hesitate.
Dumbledore worked hard to keep Lupin's illness a secret as well. It
would have been inconceivable to a child raised in the WW that a
school would allow a werewolf to attend, so I see little reason for
Snape to suspect such a thing. And I suspect any staff member in on
the secret would have worked hard to make it appear that nothing at
all was amiss with Remus Lupin. (It would be harder to keep
roommates out of the loop, of course.)
Frankly, we are still missing some very key factors to what happened
the night of the prank. So I think it's a bit early in the game to
start leveling charges of inconsistency at JKR. So far, I think
she's done a bang up job. :)
>>Eloise:
>But then, books in general are full of these sorts of things. In
this series, how is it *possible* that Harry both asks and confides
so little? A good thing it is, too, or there's be no plot at all to
speak of if he did what any sensible boy should do and tell the
greatest wizard of the age whenever he had a suspicion that
something was wrong instead of going it alone.<
<snip>
Betsy Hp:
I think JKR has done a good job at mitigating those factors. For
one, we are shown that Harry had been raised to *not* ask questions,
ever. For another, Dumbledore is usually conveniently (and
believably) out of the picture when things really start to go
wrong. But Harry usually *does* try to go to a responsible adult
when things go wrong. Actually, something I think JKR does very
well is to not have Harry be a savior all the time (usually he's
very much *not*) and to not have the villain make really obviously
stupid decisions that lead to their downfall. Of course once the
books are over we may be overwhelmed with the number of Flints, but
at this point of the game I think JKR's story stands up to the
fanatical scrutiny rather well.
Betsy Hp
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