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Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) catlady at wicca.net
Mon Jun 6 04:49:46 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 130147

Caput Draconis: http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/38/3814.html
<< 38:14 · The sun, the moon, and all the planets (seem to) move
around the earth in a belt that is at most 18 degrees wide. This belt
is known as the zodiac (see 35:3 in Group 35). The middle of the belt
is known as the ecliptic, or the "way of the sun." The movement of the
moon around the earth follows an orbit that is slightly slanting in
relation to the ecliptic. On each of its revolutions around the earth
the moon cuts the ecliptic at two places. The point where the moon
cuts the ecliptic from south to north is known as the moon's north
node or caput draconis, the dragon's head. [picture] These signs for
the north node have different forms but are, nevertheless, similar to
one another. These nodes take 18­19 years to move one full
revolution through the zodiac. The 18-year cycles are important both
in astronomy, as they make eclipses possible to predict, and in human
life, as they correspond to the age when individuals are allowed to
marry, manage their own bank accounts, drive cars, etc.
    The sign in the middle of those shown here is the graph for the
north node as it was drawn in a Greek natal chart more than 2,000
years ago.
    According to astrology [picture] in a natal chart is a symbol for
gifts and resources made available to the individual without them
having been consciously sought. It is also associated with blood
relations and sexual contacts that lead to childbirth. >>

Snow wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforG
rownups/message/129670 :

<< So then it is just peer-pressure that causes a child to react to
the house in which he resides? If you are in Hufflepuff, you
automatically realize that you are NOT book-learned (Ravenclaw) or
BRAVE (Gryffindor) or AMBITIOUS (Slytherin) and then, you adjust to
the spirit of said house? >>

Well, Cedric Diggory from Hufflepuff was visibly Brave, and putting
his name in the Goble of Fire strikes me as Ambitious.

Eloise wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129678 :

<< in PoA a charlatan of a DADA teacher (and surely Dumbledore knew
that) >>

Apparently DD knew not only about the lying, but about the Memory
Charms, because at the end of CoS when the kids explained to DD that
Lockhart was hit by a Memory Charm, DD said something about, "well,
Gilderoy, impaled with your own sword?" 

Christelle wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129679 :

<< Are we sure the potion is needed all the week before the full 
moon? >>

Whether Remus has to take the potion once anytime during that week 
(my first impression) or once each day of that week, or some other
schedule, is one of the questions that madden me with lack of answers.

Ginger wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129919 :

<< I love Lupin and I think he is the huggiest bunny in the bunch and
wouldn't hurt a fly.  >>

Hey! Of course Remus is the huggiest bunny in the bunch, but he's NOT
a wuss! He was going to help Sirius KILL Peter, knowing they'd both 
be sent to Azkaban for it, only because honor demanded vengeance for
James and loyalty demanded sharing the penalty with Sirius. As Elkins
said, he has Edge. Btw WHY did they roll up their sleeves? Most of the
spells I can think of for magically killing someone (e.g. strangling
him with that role that materialized from fingertips and ties people
up) don't involve messy blood!

Betsey wrote more about his Edge in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129943 .

Geoff wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129690 :

<< I wonder sometimes whether the marriage of Narcissa and Lucius had
something of an arranged match about it and that, having produced an
heir, Lucius is too involved with other matters to be really close to
his wife. >> 

Or whether Narcissa and Lucius are 'bestest mates' but view children
as boring nuisances and their own child as a necessary evil (necessary
for the sake of perpetuating the family line). If there ever really
was discussion of sending him to Durmstrang and Narcissa objected, it
may not have been because she didn't want her little boy to go so far
away, but that she thought him too frail to survive the punishments at
Durmstrang. If Draco died, they'd have to start over with another
baby.

Amber sunnylove quoted in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129704 :

<< "I know much more about Theodore Nott than has ever appeared in the
books. Raised by a very elderly widower and Death Eater >>

I suppose Theo can see the Thestrals because he witnessed his mother's
death -- I don't think it's too far a conclusion to jump to, that when
a child is raised by its widowed father, the dead wife was the child's
mother. What did she die of? If she was as elderly as her husband, she
could have died of old age. If she was as elderly as her husband,
wouldn't she be well past menopause (even if long-lived witches reach
menopause much later than short-lived muggles) and unable to bear a
child Theo's age? 

Years ago, I put in my fanfic that young Nott was the offspring of old
Nott and a young second wife, somewhat younger than his children by
his first wife.

lilhogan/Lauren also asked my above question in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129782 and also :

<< Otherwise, do we know specifically what other things people in the
WW can die from? Accidents? Hexes? Falling off a broomstick? >>

Well, in Quidditch Through the Ages (QTTA), we learned that there is
an annual broomstick race through a Swedish dragon reserve, where it
is popular for fans to gather at the starting line to watch the
contestants take off, and then Apparate to the finish line to
congratulate the survivors. So, burnt or eaten by dragons. We also
learned that the great player 'Dangerous' Dai Llewellyn was killed by
a Chimera while vacationing on Mykonos.

Inkling wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129784 :

<< Still it seems bizarre that a witch would die in childbirth when it
so rarely happens even in the muggle world these days. >>

It has been suggested on-list that childbirth is MORE dangerous for a
witch than a Muggle. It has been established that wizarding children
do involuntary magic when they're frightened or angry. MAYBE the
wizarding children can't do involuntary magic until they can walk or
until they can speak or some other age-related milestone. But if
they're BORN with that ability, like the ability to breathe or the
ability to suck, when would they be MORE frightened and angry than
when being pushed through an excessively narrow tube into a cold and
unfamiliar world? 

Magda wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129766 :

<< I don't believe that Voldemort took anyone with him to GH except
Pettigrew, to make sure that Pettigrew was telling the truth about
the location of GH and to sadistically rub it in to James that one of
his closest friends had turned ("the power of Voldemort knows no
limits!"). >>

I'm sure LV took Peter to Godric's Hollow, whoever else he did or
didn't take. I used to believe he took Peter to make sure that Peter
was telling him the truth rather than leading him into an ambush, but
the revelation that LV can read minds (Legilimency) means he had that
easier way to find out if Peter was conning him. That's why I was so
grateful for your
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129686 : << I
think the plan then was for Sirius, having arranged to check on
Pettigrew that night, would do what he said in POA he did: get
nervous and go to GH to make sure everything was all right. Except
that he would run into a triumphant Voldemort who would kill him.
Peter would then be able to blubber to Dumbledore that he'd killed
Sirius in self-defense and out of rage at his betrayal of the
Potters. Then Pettigrew could return to the Order and resume spying,
having proved his loyalty credentials... >>

Jen wrote in http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGr
ownups/message/129767 :

<< Until this moment I never saw the fly in the ointment, but Snape
wouldn't be able to find GH if it's hidden by Fidelius. And if he
*did* find GH because Peter disclosed the location to him (by note so
Snape doesn't know it's Peter and not Sirisu), when Snape shows up at
the Potter's door James would know Peter has betrayed them by
revealing the location to Snape. They would have contacted DD and been
removed to another location. >>

Snape could not have warned James at Godric's Hollow for the reason
you explain, but he could have told Dumbledore for Dumbledore to pass
the warning on to James, and Dumbledore could have arranged for James
to come to Hogwarts to hear Snape's tale in person.

Heather the buzzard wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129816 :

<< As for the whole no-one-knew-he-was-a-half-giant thing, I hardly
think that a giantess actually living with a local wizard and bearing
his child would go unnoticed. It happened a long time ago, and was
probably not freely talked about, so it's not surprising that none of
the KIDS would know. But I suspect the elder folk did. >>

Then why was it such a big deal when Rita Skeeter published about it?

Gerry wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/130021 :

<< We are talking about a higly dangerous membership of a secret order
in a war. You get in because you are useful and know how to handle
yourself, in other words because you have a certain level of maturity
so people can count on you. It is not a reward for being a good boy.
What Harry shows throughout the book is that he is not fit to be a
member of the Order. He has not the necessary level of maturity 
yet. >>

But Sirius does? And Snape? And Mundungus?






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