AW: [HPforGrownups] re: Sorting/Lockhart/Remus/Malfoys/Theo'sMum/TMR'sMum/Petera

[Danny]

No: HPFGUIDX 130171

Hi there! I try delurking and hope not to get bashed to hard ...
My name is Danny, I'm not a native english speaker so please excuse any
grammatical errors
I won't post that often as I still have a job to maintain *g* (with all
that high traffic here)
My memory is regrettably not eidetic so I'm not infallible ... but I
think I am a person to reason with ...
 
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston) wrote in
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/130147


>Caput Draconis:  <http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/38/3814.html>
http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/38/3814.html
><< 38:14 . The sun, the moon, and all the planets (seem to) move
> [...snip...]The 18-year cycles are important both in
>astronomy, as they make eclipses possible to predict, and in human
>life, as they correspond to the age when individuals are allowed to
>marry, manage their own bank accounts, drive cars, etc. [...snip...]
 
I beg to differ with the author, as the border when one comes of age
varies with culture and history.
In past times one did come of age pretty early. 
Nowadays you can drive a car with 16 (in the US), 
open a bank account (admittedly for pocket money) at 12 without any
notice of your parents, 
marry with 16,
drink alcohol with 16 (or with 21 depending on the country) ...
 
For the point on JKR using Geomantic names in HP -
http://www.accio.org.uk/SPSipal.shtml
As she uses also Fortuna Major, Albus and Rubeus. 
For nice definitions of some of the names in general
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/ma.rathfelder/Katy/HarryPotterorigins.htm
 

>Well, Cedric Diggory from Hufflepuff was visibly Brave, and putting
>his name in the Goble of Fire strikes me as Ambitious.
 
And Hermione is definitly book-learned (and ambitious if you recall her
getting good grades through learning)!
 


>Hey! Of course Remus is the huggiest bunny in the bunch, but he's NOT
>a wuss! He was going to help Sirius KILL Peter, knowing they'd both 
>be sent to Azkaban for it, only because honor demanded vengeance for
>James and loyalty demanded sharing the penalty with Sirius. As Elkins
>said, he has Edge. 
 
I also think Remus is a very nice man ... if you are on his right side
... he is after all a werewolf and lived 
long enough to know that being nice alone get you nowhere. 
He likes Harry (and feels for the loss of Harrys parents, his friends)
and Harrys friends so he is nice to them.
Also I think he takes his responsibility as being teacher very serious
and has his teaching methodes opposed to Snape.
 
 
>Btw WHY did they roll up their sleeves? Most of the
>spells I can think of for magically killing someone (e.g. strangling
>him with that role that materialized from fingertips and ties people
>up) don't involve messy blood!


The 'roll up the sleeves' could be psychological - either for boosting
their morale/self assurance 
(lots of people roll up their sleeves when they have a really hard task
to accomplish) or 
the other way round, to intimidate - see we REALLY mean it. 
 

>Geoff wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129690>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129690 :

><< I wonder sometimes whether the marriage [...snip...] to be really
close to
>his wife. >> 

>Or whether Narcissa and Lucius [...snip...] If Draco died, they'd have
to start over with another baby.


I'd like to think of their marriage as an arranged one . with being THE
pureblooded family the Malfoys are (and have been)
I think the expectations on Lucius have been equally high as they are on
Draco. And a good looking woman from an old 
and pureblood family as the Blacks (and having the same political
believes!) ... and being around the same age as Lucius, 
I think a father (who likes arranging things) must be hard pressed, NOT
to use this opportunity.
Wether they are best buddies or not ... I can't really believe it ... 
The children thing could easily be so.
Narcissa can also be annoyed with all the Dark Lord stuff and hope that
their son will not be so eager and easily join the
Dark Lord when he goes to a school were a known white wizard is
headmaster.
But in the other side I don't think if Lucius wants something,
exspecially for his heir, that Narcissa could overrule him.
Maybe he just wants his son to have the best poptions teacher available
at school as I don't think every school has 
a potions master as potions teacher. Draco can get the 'bad
indoctrination' from his 'friends' and at home... 
 
 

It has been suggested on-list [...snip...] when would they be MORE
frightened and angry than
when being pushed through an excessively narrow tube into a cold and
unfamiliar world? 
 
I agree with that, that would also explain why there are more muggles
than wizards.
If wizards live as long as they do, there should be more families like
the Weasleys -> there should be more wizards.
The magical ability can be innate - gets out the first time (maybe or
not) at birth (I don't think Neville would've killed his mother at
birth),  
then comes again when the child is more fully aware of its surroundings.
 


>Heather the buzzard wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129816>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/129816 :

><< As for the whole no-one-knew-he-was-a-half-giant thing, [...snip...]
>Then why was it such a big deal when Rita Skeeter published about it?
 
Did they actually live near people? 
And on the other hand I can imagine, if they were nice and friendly that
the local people kept their mouths shut, 
maybe the were shunned but nobody talked openly. As it is often in small
rural communities. 
So the majority of wizards (as reading the Daily Prophet and mostly not
noticed for having an open mind) are 
shutting off their minds and going berserk...
 

Gerry wrote in
 <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/130021>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/130021 :

<< We are talking about a higly dangerous membership [...snip...] He has
not the
necessary level of maturity yet. >>

But Sirius does? And Snape? And Mundungus?
Not really, but they have a more realistic chance to realise when things
get live-threatening, either things they do or say ot things which are
happening and are not really in their control. (ehem maybe ...)
But really ... to reward the lesson you are learning for your own safety
if not sanity with membership in something so vital and secret as the
Order? With knowledge maybe but both is like in invitation for LV to lie
low. Even if he can't read  most things in Harrys mind, these things
would be most prominently on Harrys mind the whole time, so not that
hard to miss ...
Danny
 


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