Socks, Jung, and the Dark Lord

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Tue Jun 7 05:53:04 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 130215

Socks, Jung, and the Dark Lord

In PS/SS when DD looks in the Mirror of Erised (Desire) he says that 
he sees himself with a pair of socks.  He says people insist on 
always giving him books, but what he really wants is a pair of socks.

In CS Dobby is set free with a sock.

DD's full name is Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.  I know 
that at one time, and in some cultures, it is not that unusual to 
have so many middle names, but still I wonder.  His patronus is a 
Phoenix; his bird is a Phoenix
   I wonder if it is possible that DD 
like the phoenix, reincarnates after so many years and each 
reincarnation he gets an additional name. 

Put that together with a desire for socks and maybe the only way for 
DD to be free of his series of death and rebirth is the same as 
Dobby's.  This is rather off the wall, but it does make me wonder. 

I know that I have seen a lot of Christian symbols in the HP 
series.  But there may be others there as well.  This would be 
what?  Buddhist?  The Buddha said that desire is the root of all 
evil.  The eight fold path to enlightenment helps one to break out 
of the path of desire.  Reincarnation is more Hindu.  I really don't 
know that much about these two religions to see the symbols properly 
if they are there.  Does anyone else know?  I tend to think that 
while the series is based on Christian ideas that there are elements 
of all religions in it.  

I am also beginning to wonder about Jung.  I am not a Jungian.  My 
training was more Freudian.  I wonder if one could make a case for 
LV being Harry shadow side?  There seems to be many things in the 
series that could be interpreted as the stages of becoming. By that 
I mean the psychological stages that a child goes through to become 
a whole complete mentally healthy adult.  I wonder if this is part 
of what JKR is up too.  Someone here said that there was a picture 
of our author with a copy of Jung's book behind her.  Given how she 
loves to toy with us and drop little hints here and there, well it 
just make we wonder.  It makes me wonder a *lot*.  

I also wonder about Tom Riddle, LV, and the Dark Lord.  I wonder if 
the Dark Lord and LV are the same person.  We know that LV is Tom.  
But is the DL someone or something else?  Maybe the DL is an entity 
that takes over a wizard.  So in one time it was Grindelwald, and 
then he came back through Tom as LV.  Scary because if this is true 
than if LV is defeated, the DL will come back yet again when another 
young wizard comes too close to the dark side.  (No Star Wars tie 
intended.)

Maybe the DE worship the *Dark Lord*, not LV.  I don't know a lot 
about witchcraft, but I think that there is some ancient worship of 
*the Dark Lord*, and I'm not sure if he is seen as evil. Again maybe 
someone here that knows more about this and can enlighten us.  I 
found this poster in a Witchcraft catalog that I have, it is about 
the *Dark God*.
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"Listen to the charge of the Dark God, who was of old called 
Iakchos, Donn, Anubis, Hades, Setesh, Hoder and by many other names:

I am the shadow in the bright day; I am the reminder at the height 
of living.  I am the never-ending veil of Night where the star 
goddess dances.  I am the death that must be so that Life may 
continue, for behold, Life is immortal because the living must die.

I am the strength that protects, that limits; I am the power that 
says No, and No Further and That Is Enough.  I am the things that 
can not be spoken of; I am the laughter at the edge of death.

Come with me in the warm enfolding dark; feel my caresses in the 
hands, in the mouth, in the body of the one you love, and be 
transformed.

Gather in the moonless night and speak in unknown tongues; the Dark 
Mother and I will listen.  Sing to us and cry out and the power will 
be yours to wield.

Blow me a kiss when the sky is dark, and I will smile, but no kiss 
returns; for my kiss is the final one for all mortal flesh."
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Doesn't that remind you of some of the things about LV, DE's and 
Dementors??  (And that "life is immortal because the living must 
die"? I have no clue what that means.)

But maybe all Tom needs is a pair of socks!!

Tonks_op










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