Sirius and Occlumency ( was Mental Discipline)

[nrenka]

No: HPFGUIDX 130244

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "koinonia02" <Koinonia2 at h...> 
wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, Message 130236
> 
> "nrenka" 
> 
>> I have a question: since I'm lazy and forgetful, I can't remember 
>> any time afterwards when Sirius' admonitions/warnings/'sabotage' 
>> recur in Harry's mind. 

<snips extensive canon citations which prove my point :)>

I was thinking of, given my phrasing, the *negative* implications.  
Sirius is rather supportive of the efforts in all of those later 
citations.  Especially when he hears that Snape has ended the lessons-
-he really wants Harry to start doing them again.

This speaks against the idea that Sirius' influence was a continual 
negative presence; there's only the initial one-off which Harry 
doesn't think about again (as it's not mentioned again).  Now *Ron* 
is rather negative in his evaluation of the effects, but that's a 
different character with different importance and motivation.

> However, I believe there's far more to Occlumency than is talked 
> about on this board. With all that occurs in the lessons what is 
> usually discussed is the 'blame game'.
> 
> Ah well, I'm content just to wait for HBP.

I do think we've all argued ourselves into a standstill and need some 
sheer clarification of method, the nuts and bolts.  I have a model I 
like, but there are so many factual questions to ask...

-Nora stops posting and gets back to writing notes, but wanted to 
clarify her position there