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jlv230
jlv230 at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Jun 8 19:01:58 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130319
>It could be something similar though. Does it have any connection
with the Patronus? It's also silvery stuff and you have to think to
make it happen (ok, most of the wizarding spells are made by
thinking, so not a valid point by this evidence)
>Danny (who couldn't find the scenes with Dumbledore in the earlier
books)
JLV here:
I don't think it's a `pensieve thought-strand' either. I am inclined
to think it is a patronus
and I am basing this on the following
bits of canon:
"Rumour: The Order of the Phoenix communicates using chocolate frog
cards.
JKR: This is such a great idea that I was in two minds whether to
shoot it down; however, a chocolate frog card, or any object that
would have to be remembered and carried on the person, would always
be vulnerable to loss, destruction or trickery. The Order
communicates in a way that requires nothing but a wand. You saw the
Order's method of communication in use even before you knew about
the existence of the Order; it was employed by an Order member."
(Website Rumours section)
Connecting this to the silvery thing Dumbledore shoots out in GoF
(ch. 28, p. 486, UK ed.):
"[Dumbledore] raised his wand into the air and pointed it in the
direction of Hagrid's cabin. Harry saw something silvery dart out of
it and streak away through the trees like a ghostly bird."
I believe this is the method because:
1) Dumbledore seems to be sending a message to Hagrid
2) It only required a wand
3) We saw it before we knew about the Order
As far as I have seen in discussions on this subject, no-one has
come up with any other moment in the books which also fits these
criteria - but that doesn't mean there isn't one!
In making the connection between this "ghostly bird" and a patronus,
I defer to descriptions of Patroni in PoA ans this Edinburgh Book
Day quote:
"What form does Dumbledore's Patronus take?
Good question. Can anyone guess? You have had a clue. There was a
little whisper there. It is a phoenix, which is very representative
of Dumbledore for reasons that I am sure you can guess."
Now, I took this clue to which JKR refers to be *exactly the same
scene* in GoF where Dumbledore sends out the silvery thing. It is
only a clue because we don't get to see the form of the bird because
it is moving so fast. Now, it could be that I have completely
misinterpreted this and the clue is just that Dumbledore has a
Phoenix, but the fact she says "a clue" not "some clues" leads me to
believe that she is referring to a specific incident this moment
on GoF rather than a more general selection of clues. But this is
all just my opinion, of course!
JLV xx
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