Sirius and Prank again? Fools Rush in where Wisemen Fear to Go

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 130337

Alla wrote earlier:
I'd like to say that we don't know yet whether Sirius knew exactly 
what he was doing that night and what exactly Sirius was doing.
 
Doesn't it strike you as strange that Sirius after spending twelve 
years in Azkaban reacts so violently at the first mention of 
Snape's name. Granted, you can argue that Sirius is a vicious 
murderer, who always wanted to kill Snape, but isn't it possible 
that this reaction shows hatred which relies on something much more 
in depth than the fact that Snape was spying on them?

For twelve years Dementors were eating up Sirius' happy thoughts. 
If his reactions about Snape were left intact, isn't it possible 
that something VERY unhappy connects those two?

 
Finwitch:

Excellent point, Alla - and indeed, there IS a mutual, strong hatred 
between them - particularly obvious in GoF. Something that's in the 
very core of them -- and I suppose that something is also part 
of 'he exists' that James told Lily.

Alla:

Oh, yes. I should have added " because he exists: to my question 
marks about Snape anmd Marauders in general and Prank in particular.

I mean sure one can read such remark as simple arrogance of the 
bully towards his victim, but it is not just " because he exists" it 
is also " if you know what I mean" ( paraphrase). I do think that 
something is here which also points out to deeper connection, IMO.


Finwitch:
 
My favourite theory about that 'prank', considering that question of 
werewolves which Snape issued for a homework, Snape's apparent study 
of that question/listening the conversation which more or less 
clearly stated that Lupin was a werewolf-- is that Snape DID know. 
What he went there for, was to commit *suicide by a werewolf*. Why? 
To get at Sirius, of course! Trying to make Sirius appear guilty of 
murder - which Snape is STILL doing with that claim... 
<SNIP>

Alla:

I can EASILY buy the speculation that Snape figured out who Remus 
was exactly because of that question.

Of course it could be just a simple coincidence that he assigns 
EXACTLY the same question to Harry's class hoping that someone would 
out Remus ... again. :-) Was that Pippin who said something to the 
effect that if the gun is planted it will go off eventually?  Hmmm, 
maybe it was not a coincidence.

What I am not sure I am buying is  the fact that Snape would exact 
his revenge over Marauders  that way.

I mean, if he commits suicide, he does lose a lot, right? I guess he 
can come back as a ghost, but would he really want this kind of sad 
existence? I mean  if he really hated marauders so much that he 
would not mind dying in order to stick it to them, I don't know... I 
think it is very sad.


Now, we ARE speculating here, but if we assume that Snape indeed 
figured out who Remus was , but did not want to commit suiside, 
could you come up with another idea of why he decided to go to the 
Shack?

Another related question. I went to Lexicon  today and realised that 
I have not looked at their timelines for a long time.

Lexicon places Prank in the sixth year. Is it  because of "Sirius 
Black showed that he was capable of murder at the age of 16" or 
other obvious quote which I can't remember now?

What if Sirius turned sixteen in their fifth year? I sort of share 
the speculation that Prank may have occurred right after pensieve 
scene, but if it indeed happens in their sixth year, Severus would 
have even more time to do a  little research on Remus. :-)

Finwitch: 
At the very least, I believe that Sirius reckons Snape went there to 
kill himself, become a ghost and therefore, frame him for murder. 
After spending 12 years with dementors for a similar act, forced to 
dwell in whatever it is he hates Snape so much for - saying 'serves 
him right' fits in. In that situation, I think I'd be saying the 
same.


Alla:

I LOVED Potioncat's analogy of the Prank with jigsaw puzzle. I 
firmly believe that we are missing some crucial pieces of that 
puzzle. I definitely think that this sentence may not be finished  
and as I asked earlier I REALLY want to know what this may mean.

"Black made a derisive noise.

"It served him right," he sneered. "Sneaking around, trying to find
out what we were up to... hoping he could get us expelled...." -
PoA, paperback, p.356.



Just my opinion,

Alla.