If Dumbledore dies......

[flyingmonkeypurple]

No: HPFGUIDX 130453

> Flyingmonkeypurple:
> > People keep saying that Dumbledore is going to die.
> > I feel if Dumbledore dies then LV has no one to fear.

Laura <lhuntley at f...> wrote:
> I think you've sort of missed the whole point.  *Harry* is the 
> only one who can permanently defeat LV (and I do think LV knows 
> or suspects that, and is at least a *little* perturbed), and in 
> order for him to meaningfully fulfill this role, the "safety" 
> needs to be turned off. 

Flyingmonkey writes back:
I never said that Dumbledore has to kill LV in the end. If 
Dumbledore dies then LV will know he has defeated the one wizard 
everyone thought was such a great wizard.

Flyingmonkeypurple:
> > If Dumbledore dies then LV can do what ever he wants to do. 
> > Harry has no chance without Dumbledore alive.

Laura:
> I'd argue that it'd be a pretty dull, pointless sort of ending 
> to have Harry defeat Voldemort -- but only with Dumbledore 
> watching over his shoulder.  Kind of goes against the whole 
> plot of the book, doesn't it?

Flyingmonkeypurple writes back:
Harry looks at Dumbledore as his mentor. He needs him there for 
support. I just don't see Harry killing LV without hearing 
Dumbledore saying something wise at the end of the book or 
anything.
 
> Flyingmonkeypurple:
> > IMO If LV does murder Dumbledore killing every other
> > person is going to be like taking candy from a baby. LV would 
> > not let anything stop him once he defeated Dumbledore.

Laura:
> Agreed.  Dumbledore's death/incapacitation will definitely 
> raise the ante.  Yet, Dumbledore *will* be defeated -- in some 
> form -- before the climax of the series.  It *has* to be this 
> way -- otherwise how can Harry really be the hero?  Remember, 
> this isn't Dumbledore's story.  It's not even the story of his 
> generation or Harry's parent's generation.  Eventually, the 
> "all-powerful" adults will have to be removed so that the 
> younger generation of heroes can save their world for 
> themselves.

Flingmonkeypurple writes back:
I know Harry has to kill LV in the end. How is Dumbledore being 
have to do with Harry being a Hero. All the times Harry was agents 
LV Dumbledore did not tell Harry what to do. If all the adults are 
gone imo what would this bring Harry except the knowledge that he 
killed LV? All the people that worked for this are dead. 

Flyingmonkeypurple