[HPforGrownups] Re: How Sirius' death suits Dumbledore? Was: Re : Harry's Role in OotP (long)
Magda Grantwich
mgrantwich at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 13 17:37:38 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130609
> Alla:
>
> I think I am confused again. Am I understanding you correctly that
> your argument is that Sirius' death suits Dumbledore in essense
> because Harry will be a better person without Sirius and/or he will
> be simply safer with Sirius dead?
Yes to both. Dumbledore wouldn't have WANTED Sirius to die; he
doesn't want anyone to die. But let's just say that I don't think
he's blinded by grief.
> If this is indeed the gist of your argument , I would like to
> comment that essentially what Sirius wanted for Harry ( despite all
> his emotional unstability) in OOP, turned out to be the right thing
> for Harry after all.
So what? I mean really, why does this matter? There's a lot of
things Sirius wanted for Harry - including that Harry be a substitute
"bestest mate" for himself. Some things were good, some were bad.
> I tend to think that even being so depressed during OOP, Sirius
> realised what is best for Harry, which to me speaks volumes.
If Sirius truly had any idea of what was best for Harry, he'd have
worked harder at getting closer to him rather than hiding out in
Buckbeak's room for hours at a time, he'd have sucked up his
disappointment about his life and put on a confident front so that
Harry's stress level didn't erupt, and he'd have refrained from
telling Harry that "you're less like your father than I thought" and
abruptly ending a floo conversation.
It was Harry who knew better what was good for Sirius. Sirius was
projecting his and James' reactions to things onto Harry and being
surprised when they didn't stick.
> I mean sure he made mistakes, but I do think that if he would
> survive the war and managed to continue relationship with Harry, it
> would have done both of them lots of good.
They could have continued to grow up together.
> One more thing , about Sirius coming up with brilliant plan, which
> cost Lily and James their lives. I am sure that was raised before
> but from what little I know about Lily so far, I don't consider her
> to be stupid, rash or impulsive and she seemed to agree to that
> plan. Maybe there were some merits to it after all.
What merits, precisely? Twelve dead muggles might disagree with that
assessment. Lily wouldn't be the first wife who'd gone along with
her husband's views.
Magda
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