Lupin is Ever So Evil, Part Two--Replies
pippin_999
foxmoth at qnet.com
Wed Jun 15 13:45:11 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130723
Neri:
I have always took the "Voldemort's second-in-command" to
be a complete fabrication, a typical Daily Prophet catch
phrase.
Pippin:
Then what do you make of JKR's statement that the
Lestranges were "sent" after the Longbottoms?
Neri:
The idea that a fresh student out of Hogwarts would
become Voldemort's second-in-command in just one year
sounds pretty absurd anyway, especially if he's a spy.
Since when are spies made second-in-command? A second-in-
command sits at HQ so he can, well, command, and the
others should know him so they would, well, take his
commands. But which DEs knew ESE!Lupin, and that he's the
Big Boss' second-in-command?
Pippin:
Why "just one year"? Sirius was twenty-two when he was
sent to Azkaban, so Lupin had been out of school four
or five years already. Lafayette was commanding American
forces in the Revolutionary War at a similar age, Joan
of Arc was even younger. It's unusual but hardly absurd.
In a sense *all* the Death Eaters are spies, since it's an
undercover organization. Presumably there are code words
or spells by which officers can identify themselves to
DE's who don't know them. Only DE's know how to cast the
Dark Mark, for example.
If the DE's only knew Lupin by his code name, then they
couldn't have spilled the beans on him.
Neri:
Karkaroff apparently didn't know. Snape didn't know
either. He may have suspected, but apparently not enough
to tell Dumbledore, and even in the Shack he only accused
Lupin with helping Sirius, not with being a spy.
Pippin:
Snape could hardly accuse Lupin of spying on the
order without blowing his cover -- and the Order's too.
It's clear Snape believes that Lupin has been helping
Sirius all along, though he never had proof. His
objections date back to when Lupin was hired, before
Lupin could have helped Sirius do anything. Snape
certainly didn't conceal his suspicions from
Dumbledore.
Bella didn't know her own master was a
halfblood. She might not know that Remus was a werewolf
either. He doesn't socialize,and his identity was kept
secret while he was in school.
A very neat solution is to suppose that Voldemort used
the codename "Wormtail" for his spy all along, so that
the DE's never knew that Peter and Lupin were two
different people.They're physically different of course,
but the DE's are quite familiar with the uses of
polyjuice potion.
Karen:
just wanted to comment on the above. The fact that Peter
called LV 'The Dark Lord' was what convinced me that he
was the spy. Only DEs call him 'The Dark Lord', every one
else calls him 'You Know Who' or 'He Who Must Not Be
Named' (apart from the very few who actaully call him
Lord Voldemort).
Pippin:
Harry is not an accurate observer. Draco Malfoy refers to
the 'Dark Lord' and so does Trelawney in True Seer mode.
Nathaniel:
As for Sirius, we don't really know how much he
entertained the idea that Lupin was a spy. But it does
seem unlikely that he had had more than just vague
suspicions, or he wouldn't have so quickly come to the
conclusion that Peter was the spy.
Pippin:
Sirius didn't tell us his reasoning, but we know he
assumed that only he, James, Peter and Lily knew about the
switch, and that Lupin didn't. In that case, only Peter
could have told Voldemort about the switch, ergo Peter
was the spy. But Sirius could have been wrong.
The idea that Sirius only vaguely suspected Lupin loses
credibility once we find out in OOP that there were
others close to Lily and James. Presumably anyone
in Moody's photo, barring the deceased, could have
been the spy. There had to be some reason that Sirius
specifically thought it was Lupin.
Nathaniel:
Hermione does not particularly seem to believe that Lupin
is evil either.
Pippin:
I didn't say she does. What she believes is that some
werewolves support Lord Voldemort. I was dealing with the
objection, raised in the past, that werewolves would not
join forces with the champion of the purebloods.
Pippin
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