Yet another prophecy question

pippin_999 foxmoth at qnet.com
Fri Jun 17 15:07:07 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 130879

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Karen Barker"
<karenabarker at y...> wrote:
> This has been puzzling me for some time.  As I understand it, the 
> whole point of everything DD did in OotP was to keep LV from
learning 
> the remainder of the prophecy.  After the battle in the MoM, LV
knows  that the prophecy has smashed and the contents are lost.  
DD knows  that Harry has not got far with Occlumancy and that 
LV is aware of the connection so can access Harry's mind.  Why 
then does DD immediately  tell Harry the contents of the prophecy? 

Pippin:
I think Dumbledore is convinced the unheard part of the prophecy 
applied to things that had already happened and it wouldn't have
done any harm if Voldemort had heard it. The prophecy was bait.

"Nevertheless, you should never have believed for an instant that
there was any necessity for you to go to the Department of Mysteries
tonight." (OOP-US ch 37 p 825)

I'm also pretty sure the scar connection is broken for now --
Voldemort ought to be furious over what happened, yet from the 
moment Voldemort releases him, there's no more mention of 
Harry's scar hurting at all.


Karen:
  If it's  suddenly not really that important that LV could access it
from  Harry, why did DD have to stay away from Harry all year, 
leave him stewing in  ignorance all summer and allow a situation 
to develop that ended up in  the loss of one of the most important 
people in Harry's world?

Pippin:

 Dumbledore felt that he and Harry had such an intense emotional
attachment that  Voldemort would be able to sense when 
Harry was in Dumbledore's presence if they made eye contact. 
LV might use Harry to attack Dumbledore, to try to force one 
of them to destroy the other, or he might try to use legilimency 
to spy on Dumbledore through Harry's mind. Canon shows this 
fear was justified.

But even remote contact would have been dangerous, because there 
were other ways in which Voldemort could have  exploited the 
relationship --  he could have used an illusion of Dumbledore as 
bait the same way he used Sirius, for example. 

Dumbledore ignored Harry very publicly at the hearing, which was
certainly reported to Voldemort. After that, Voldemort would be
unlikely to send Harry an Owl in what purported to be
Dumbledore's handwriting, saying, "Meet me at the Department of
Mysteries, there's something I have to show you," and if he did,
Harry would have been suspicious of it.

Voldemort has never experienced real love or friendship but in
his life as Riddle there were probably many people who
liked him, as Ginny did, until they found out what he was like. 
That's how friendships go, in Voldemort's experience.  It wouldn't
be suspicious to him that Dumbledore had suddenly grown cold 
toward Harry. He would assume that Dumbledore had never
really liked Harry at all and that Harry now knew it.

Pippin






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