The good Slytherin
horridporrid03
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Fri Jun 17 21:18:42 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 130897
>>Karen:
>I keep reading about 'the good slytherin' and just wondered where
this came from. Is it something Jo has said (I can't find anything)
or is it just a myth?<
<snip>
Betsy Hp:
It's a theory. One I've seen all around the various Harry Potter
boards and blogs. I'm not sure how long it's been around but it
gained a lot of weight after OotP and the Sorting Hat's song
emphasizing unity.
"For our Hogwarts is in danger
>From external deadly foes
And we must unite inside her
Or we'll crumble from within" (OotP scholastic hardback pp.206-207)
And then Harry *really* drove the message home with his tempting of
fate (always dangerous for fictional characters to do <g>).
"And it wants all the Houses to be friends?" said Harry, looking
over at the Slytherin table, where Draco Malfoy was holding
court. "Fat chance." (ibid p.209)
Especially after we got a fleshing out of Hufflepuffs and Ravenclaws
through the DA club the time seems ripe for a "good Slytherin" to
show him (or her) self.
>>Karen:
>If there is a good Sltherin, I think Viktor Krum is it. He comes
from Durmstrang, which appears to be a school full of Syltherins -
they are taught to use the Dark Arts, not just to defend themselves
against them, their Headmaster is a Deatheater and they all
naturally gravitated to the Slytherin table in the great hall. VK,
however says many times that he likes Hogwarts and it's nicer than
Durmstrang.<
Betsy Hp:
It's a theory. One I'd find particularly disappointing myself. (Of
course I have high hopes Draco will be the "good Slytherin" so take
this for what it's worth. <g>) For one thing Krum is not a Hogwarts
graduate, for another he's not Harry's peer, and most importantly
he's not a Slytherin.
Karkaroff, as a friend of Snape, had his students sit with
Slytherin, but Krum didn't seem to interact with any of the
students, IIRC (except Hermione).
I also take issue with the idea that all things dark and evil should
be associated with Slytherin. It sounds to stereotypical to my
mind, and it lays too much on the Slytherin doorstep, IMO.
Slytherin wanted students far removed from the Muggle world (which
was a threat to wizards and witches at the time of the school
founding) and who had ambition and cunning. None of that reads as
particularly evil or even overly dark to me.
I can, however, see Krum maybe returning to Hogwarts (as a teacher?
to woo Hermione?) and somehow being a good influence on some of the
Slytherins.
>>Karen:
>I then wondered further as to what happened to SS after he threw
his teddy out of the pram and stormed out of Hogwarts because the
other founders kept insisting on admitting 'the wrong' sort of
students.<
Betsy Hp:
Just as a point of order, it is by no means certain that Slytherin
left because the other founders disagreed with his student choices,
or that he disagreed with theirs. I know Binns says as much in CoS,
but there's a bit of a contradiction in the Sorting Hat's song in
OotP. The Sorting Hat says that,
"Hogwarts worked in harmony
For several happy years,
But then discord crept among us
Feeding on our faults and fears," (ibid pp.205-206)
So there was fighting between *all four* founders. The "feeding on
our faults and fears" suggests that whatever each founder was
worried about grew to a paranoia. So perhaps Slytherin *did* start
worrying about the presence of muggle-born students. But if all
four founders were fighting that couldn't have been the only bone of
contention. (Ravenclaw may have complained there were too many
stupid students. Gryffindor may have protested there were too many
cowards or timid students. I've no idea what Hufflepuff would have
complained about, but I guess she found something. <g>) What we do
know is that once Slytherin left it shocked the other founders into
renewing their friendships. And the Sorting Hat does imply that
Slytherin was missed.
>>Karen:
>Did he flounce off to Bulgaria where he could set up his own school
the way he wanted? Are the Durmstrang students literally Slitherins?
<
Betsy Hp:
It is an interesting theory that Slytherin formed Durmstrang. But
since he did it after Hogwarts and not with the other founders, I
can't see a Durmstrang student being a symbol of Hogwarts unity.
Betsy Hp
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