Snape as father figure, was Sirius as Father Figure

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 18 14:11:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 130936


Amanda:
> Snape finds
> > it convenient, and easy, to keep hating Harry, but I don't think 
> there's
> > real passion there. So Snape is able to have a degree of 
> objectivity towards
> > Harry; it allows him to teach Occlumency to him, and it allows 
him 
> some
> > effectiveness as a father figure.

Phoenixgod: 
> Nope, sorry. I don't buy Snape having anything close to 
objectivity 
> towards Harry at all. Objectivity would allow him to see Harry as 
> himself and not an extension of his father placed in Hogwarts for 
> Snapes own amusement and torment.


Alla:

Oh, yes. I think I have a question for Amanda, which I meant to ask 
yesterday.

I mentioned it recently that prior to OOP I WAS hoping that whether 
Snape hated James or not, he did not really hated Harry, that he 
indeed can differentiate between two Potters, but does what he does 
to the boy for the reasons unknown to us yet - to help him prepare 
for Voldemort, or something like that...

Did I like the  means? Oh, definitely not, but I was at least 
prepared to cut Snape SOME slack in that area... You know, that 
maybe he indeed KNOWS that Harry is not James.

In the post-OOP world, I am truly puzzled, Amanda, when anybody ( 
not just you) starts arguing that Snape can have ANY kind of 
objectivity towards Harry.

I think Dumbledore pretty much spelled it out for us:

"But I forgot - another old man's mistake - that some wounds run too 
deep for healing. I thought Professor Snape could overcome  his 
feelings about your father - I was wrong" - OOP, paperback, p.833.

Now, of course you can argue that Dumbledore is wrong here. I myself 
had argued that on several occasions, BUT then I think the fair 
asumption would be  that Dumbledore can be wrong about the first 
part of the quote . You know, "I trust Severus Snape".

If you don't argue that Dumbledore is wrong though, I think his 
words effectively foreclose ANY kind of objectivity that Snape can 
have towards Harry.

I honestly think that Snape is incapable of being objective towards 
Harry and when he looks at him all that he sees is the copy of James 
with Lily's eyes. 

I can be wrong of course and believe it or not, I would LOVE to be 
wrong on this one.

That is of course just my opinion,

Alla











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