Snape as father figure

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Amandageist:

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In any case. Snape is angry at Harry for not working at 
> Occlumency. Snape isnot angry at Harry for successfully resisting 
him and accidentally breaking into his memories. So yes, I call that 
professional and objective. 
At least a damn sight more than Harry is managing. [and yes, for you 
Harry- defenders out there, I have already made the case that 
Voldemort may have  been influencing Harry and will not blame him 
overly for this.

Phoenixgod:
> Wait a minute, I thought we were talking about the scene where
Harry 
> sneaks a peak in Snapes memories? Methinks we are talking about two 
> different things.


Alla:

Yes, Phoenixgod, I think you were talking about two different
episodes 
and I was talking about whole thing in general.


SO, ONCE during  the whole Occlumency thing Snape manages to keep his 
mouth shut and show a response close to what teacher has to show, I 
will give you that, Amanda.

I will still say that his behaviour as a whole during comes  not even 
CLOSE to being professional and objective. JMO of course.

"How do you know?" said Harry urgently. "Is this just Professor 
Dumbledore guessing, or ---?"
"I told you," said Snape, rigid in his chair, his eyes slits, "to
call 
me Sir." - p.533.


"I'm trying," said Harry angrily, " but you're not telling me how!"
"Manners, POtter," said Snape dangerously." Now I want you to close 
your eyes" - p.535.

And of course, the much cited last scene.

"So," said Snape, gripping Harry's arm so tightly Harry's hand  was 
starting to feel numb. " So... been enjoying yourself, Potter?"
"N-no..." said Harry trying to free his arm.
It was scary: Snape's lips were shaking, his face was white, his
teeth 
were bared.
"Amusing man, your father, wasn't he?" said Snape shaking Harry so 
hard his glasses slipped down his nose.
"I-didn't-"
Snape threw Harry from him with all his might. Harry fell hard onto 
the dungeon floor." - OOP., p.649

I cannot call this a professional behaviour. If Snape can loose it so 
badly. I would say he is simply too dangerous to be around Harry.

After all, who knows what he can do to  Harry, when he thinks about 
James Potter next time.



Having said all this, I am arguing that EVEN IF Snape was an example 
of professional behaviour throuhout Occlumency lessons, it was
already 
too late.

As somebody said earlier, Snape completely owns Harry/Snape problem.
When Harry arrived at Hogwarts, he had no clue who Snape was and he 
had no grounds whatsoever to hate him. Snape ripped into him on their 
first lesson and continued his tactics of abuse and humiliation
during 
those years.

So, when Occlumency starts, Harry does not trust Snape and even if he 
was told over and over again that Snape is a trusted member of the 
Order, Harry remembers what Snape does to him over and over again and 
I doubt that based on his experiences he can trust Snape much.

I do blame Snape for Occlumency disaster, NOT only based on his 
behaviour during the lessons ( because indeed Harry was not
practicing 
enough too and he was not supposed to look in Snape's pensieve), but 
based on what Snape did to Harry before  lessons ever happened.


What I think is very telling is how Harry feels when he comes before 
the lesson even started -

"Shut  the door behind you, POtter."
"Harry did as he was told with the horrible feeling that he was 
imprisoning himself as he did so" - OOP, p.529.

He goes to Occlumency as if he goes to Prison. Hmm, I wonder how 
productive such lesson can be.


Just my opinion of course,

Alla.