Clues from the Sorcerer's Stone - Does 1945=1997 ? (Part One)

Sun Jun 19 21:58:38 UTC 2005

No: HPFGUIDX 130996

I have finally finished my reread of Harry Potter and the
Sorcerer's Stone and have never been more convinced that
the ultimate outcome to the series is prognosticated in
this book.

Here are some of the more interesting points:

1. Vernon Dursley never saw Harry as a baby (ss 4).
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It is entirely possible that Petunia has never seen Harry
either since she despises Lily and James.
This could be another reason that Dumbledore found it
convenient and necessary to remove Harry from direct
contact with the wizarding world - the wizard world may
learn too much about Harry if they were closer to him,
and Dumbledore to eventually defeat Voldemort he needs
the Harry he helped create in one piece.

2. Has anyone wondered why McGonagall was at Privet Drive
when Harry was delivered there?
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Why McGonagall? Does her skills as a transfiguration
specialist have anything to do with her being there?
or is she more involved with the Potters than we are aware
of at this point.
We know that James is competent at transfiguration as well -
(ss 82)Lily's wand useful for charms,
James' wand is useful for transfiguration

3. What might the inability for the Dursleys to change the
appearance of Harry's hair imply?(ss 24)
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His Tonks-like skill may tell us a lot in the future. It may
also tell us that his origin is not quite as "human" as it
appears. (Manxmouse theory)

When Hagrid fills Harry in on being a wizard and what it
means, he says several very interesting thing that stuck out:

4. (SS 53) "How could a car crash kill Lily and James Potter?
It's an outrage! A scandal!"
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Were Harry and Lily immortal? What would happen if an
Avada Kedavra would be cast on an immortal? Was this why
Voldemort didn't die and Harry survived?

5. (SS 55) "[vOLDEMORT] didn't dare try taking the school,
not jus' then anyway."
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If not then, when? A few death eaters hidden by invisibility
cloaks and with the Marauders Map could wreak havoc at
Hogwarts once Dumbledore was gone.

6. (ss 55) "[Voldemort] probably knew they were too close ter
Dumbledore ter want anythin' ter do with the Dark Side."
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This is the best quote yet to indicate that James and Lily
{and Harry!} were up to their eyes in alchemy and all that
it implies (immortality, creation of gold, etc.).

7. (ss 57) "Dunno if he had enough human in him left to die."
- and repeated again in Harry's thoughts while he was talking to
Firenze (ss 259)
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8.(ss 58) Hagrid to the Dursleys - "seven years [at Hogwarts]
and he won't know himself"
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This is one of the better hints that Harry may indeed be
occupied by the dark lord during his last year at hogwarts
(Trichotomy theory)

9. The sorting hat's song ....
(ss 117) "There's nothing hidden in your head The Sorting Hat
can't see" and later ...
(ss 121) "you could be great you know, it's all here in your head"
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Yeah.....like the Dark Lord is... just biding his time....

10. (ss 155) Hermione to Ron and Harry "... and you'll lose all
the points I got from Professor McGonagall for knowing about
Switching Spells"
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Switching spells are mentioned but never described - what are the
consequences of a Switching Spell gone wrong? I always felt that
Harry was hit by this spell rather than an AK spell at
Godric's Hollow...

11. (ss 209) [Harry standing in front of the Mirror or Erised]
"Mom?" he whispered."Dad?"
They just looked at him smiling.
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Always an interesting scene ... never a confirmation ...
and read #12 below ....

12. (ss 213) [Dumbledore finding Harry once again in front of
the mirror... Dumbledore speaking]
"It [the mirror] shows us nothing more or less than the deepest,
most desperate desire of our hearts. You, who have never known
your family, see them standing around you. Ronald Weasley, who
has always been overshadowed by his brothers, sees himself
standing alone, the best of all of them.
{emphasis mine} HOWEVER, THIS MIRROR WILL GIVE US NEITHER
KNOWLEDGE OR TRUTH. Men have wasted away before it, entranced by
what they have seen, or been driven mad, NOT KNOWING IF WHAT IT
SHOWS IS REAL OR EVEN POSSIBLE."
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Why neither knowledge nor truth? Isn't Harry looking at his
family in the mirror? I am not so sure...... This whole passage
is very spooky and open to interpretation. Maybe Harry doesn't
have the family he thinks he does...... maybe the Manxmouse
theory isnt so far fetched after all?

13. (SS 220) The [Sorcerer's Stone] will transform any metal
into purge gold. It also produces the Elixir of Life, which
will make the drinker immortal.
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The Flamels were immortal but seemingly chose to die ......
The sorcerer's stone could also have produced the
Potter's fortune

14. (ss 220) Mr Flamel, who celebrated his 665th birthday
last year, enjoys a quiet life in Devon with his wife
Pernelle (658).
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Which in case anyone couldnt figure it out, if Flamel did die,
he died at age 666 .......

15. (ss 293-294) [Voldemort - emphasis mine]
"... and once I have the Elixir of Life, I WILL BE ABLE
TO CREATE A BODY OF MY OWN ..."
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If Voldemort can do it, why not Flamel or Dumbledore??????????
Why couldn't they create a "body" with special properties to
house the child of Lily and James? We don't know much about
exactly what properties would be useful to defeat Voldemort at
this point but Harry clearly has all of his survival skills
intact!
This is the best hint that the manxmouse theory is possible and
should not be ruled out.

13. (ss 103) DuMBLEDORE's Chocolate Frog Card
Considered to be the greatest wizard of modern times,
Dumbledore is particularly famous for his defeat of
the dark wizard Grindelwald (1945) ....
for the discovery of the twelve uses of dragon's blood, .....
and his work on alchemy with his partner, Nicholas Flamel -
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which tells me the following -

1945 is a VERY critical year in wizarding history since
that is also the year when Tom Riddle disappeared from
Hogwarts (SEE Voldemort's timeline from the lexicon
http://www.hp-lexicon.org/timelines/timeline_voldemort.html

if Flamel had access to the sorcerer's stone so did Dumbledore...
and suggests a possible link between dragon's blood and
unicorn's blood

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In short, there are many more parallels in the lives(?) of
Harry Potter and Tom Riddle than we have been told to this point...

I will summarize the parallels of 1945 and 1997 in a later post

tinglinger
who has full presentations of the theories mentioned herein at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/potterplots