Snape as father figure

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 20 03:35:33 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131009

> Alla earlier:
> 
> > Having said all this, I am arguing that EVEN IF Snape was an 
> example 
> > of professional behaviour throuhout Occlumency lessons, it was
> > already 
> > too late.
> > 
> > As somebody said earlier, Snape completely owns Harry/Snape 
problem.


Derenmcc: 
> I would like to leave lurkdom to add my opinion to this.  I am not 
> excusing Snape's behavior, however, to excuse Harry's behavior 
based 
> on Snape's treatment, (which is not anywhere near as bad as the 
> Dursley's, btw) is inappropriate.  I believe that Snape wanted to 
> keep a professional distance between himself and Harry during the 
> Occlumency lessons and that is why he insisted on being 
> called "Professor" or "Sir."  It's clear that Snape dislikes 
Harry, 
> but Harry hasn't been fair to him either.  Granted, Harry is a 
child 
> and cannot be expected to think as an adult. But Harry knew he 
should 
> have practiced and chose not to.  Harry also knew it was wrong to 
> look into the pensieve, but chose to do it anyway, to find out 
what 
> Snape did not want him to see.  He is responsible for his own 
> behavior.


Alla:

Welcome, Derenmcc!  I hope you don't mind me completely disagreeing 
with your post. :-)

Well, actually not even completely disagreeing, more like clarifying 
what I said earlier.

First, I also said it in  my previous post - Harry made some 
mistakes during Occlumency disaster, so we are on the same page here.

Second, I will not ever agree that Snape was exhibiting professional 
behaviour during Occlumency lessons as a whole, but even if he did, 
it would not really matter to me.

I blame him for CREATING Harry's attitude about Snape in the first 
place. Harry arrived to Hogwarts knowing absolutely nothing  about 
who Severus Snape is, but during five years Snape emotionally abused 
Harry on the day to day basis, SO of course Harry is responsible fo 
his own behaviour, but I find it very reasonable  that Harry does 
not ... like him much.

That's what I meant when I said ( or more like repeated another 
poster's words) that Snape owns Snape/Harry problem.

I think that consequences of emotional abuse can be devastating (and 
yes,  the issue whether Snape emotionally abuses Harry in the first 
place is always very debatable, but not for me) and during the 
Occlumency lessons Snape in the metaphorical sense ate the fruits of 
his labor during those five years.

That is why I hope that Snape would get it in to his head eventually 
that his strategy of dealing with Harry was humongous mistake ( if 
he ever had any kind of strategy).

I also hope that Dumbledore understood that his strategy of letting  
Snape do whatever he wants with Harry was a mistake, since  it 
backfired so badly.

Oh, and even though it would sound contradictory with my post, I do 
hope that  we will get many Harry/Snape interactions  in HBP, 
because I am sort of addicted  to them.  :-)

That is just my opinion of course.

Are you sure that you want to go back to lurking ? :-)

Alla.






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