Sirius-Barty parallels / Poisoned Sirius (was:Re: Sirius as Father Figure...)

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> Finwitch wrote <snipped>:
> 
> Well, I interpret that Fire-place discussion quite differently. 
For 
> one thing, the most beautiful thing of Sirius (god)parenting (in 
GoF 
> in particular) is the way he's willing if not eager to risk 
> everything just to be with Harry. 

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:
Well, I think that was part of the problem, I think Sirius wanted to 
be with Harry, to protect him, and also just to have a friend. It 
seems, if Sirius had Lupin and Harry around, it would be more like 
James was back with them.


Finwitch wrote:

 I'd say Sirius was disappointed that Harry didn't have 
> the nerve to dare meet him... (and so Sirius would get out of the 
> Black house he hated). And Sirius told Harry that he'd prefer a 
> Dementor-attack to staying put in that house previously.


KarentheUnicorn's Reply:
In a way, Sirius was just a kid himself still. Most time's, being a 
parent, I think means doing what you should do and must do, not what 
you want to do. And, that was part of the problem. Of course, I 
think Sirius wanted to get out of the house for more than just he 
hated the house, he also has been locked up for 12 years in prison, 
so, now he probably feels like he is locked up again. Still, I think 
he should have realized what was at stake, if he were killed or 
captured, Harry would loose someone he loved, and, maybe Sirius 
didn't think that far along into it, and yes, the Griffindor 
bravery, he had to live up to it of course.

Also, wasn't it Snape that contacted Sirius to find out if he was 
captured....or, I forget, will have to go back and look. I can just 
imagine the scene, where Snape is telling Sirius to stay 
put......I'm sure that went over like a snowball in hell.

Still, I think Sirius, being that he knows how Snape is, is just as 
stubborn and unforgiving as Snape. if Snape should be the one to get 
over it, then I think Sirius also should have been the better man 
and got over it. But, well, we have no idea what they both need to 
get over....the pensive scene shows us something of there rivalry. 
I'll say, Sirius was more fired up to attack Snape that James was
(even though James did most of the attacking), so, what else are the 
two so all fired up mad about. I still say, there is more going on 
between Sirius and Snape, there is way to much anger between them.


Finwitch wrote: 
> And what he said was: "You're less like your father than I 
thought. 
> Risk would have been what made it fun for James". Not that he's a 
> lesser man. More of a rebuke of not having enough nerve to take 
> risks... they ARE Gryffindors, after all.

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:

Yea, I agree with this, but, its probably both. Sirius wants Harry 
to be James, it seems Sirius is also, living in the past, to a 
certain degree. But, I think that is what happens when you have lost 
12 years of your young life...you wish you could get them back.

KarentheUnicorn