[HPforGrownups] Re: Emphasis on proper address was: Snape as father figure
Melete
ellydan at yahoo.com
Wed Jun 22 17:14:28 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 131178
--- potioncat <willsonkmom at msn.com> wrote:
>
> > Thursday:
> > > Not saying that Severus Snape doesn't want to be
> treated with
> respect but I've always thought this was also just
> teaching basic
> good manners.
> snip
>
> Potioncat:
> Whether or not in RL England kids address adults as
> "Sir" they
> certainly did in fictional schoolboy stories; and
> JKR uses many of
> the standard fictional approaches in this series.
> (Which is why, I
> think, Harry was left on a doorstep in a basket.)
>
> As this thread has developed, I also happened to
> read a section of
> dialogue in OoP between Draco and Snape (erm,
> Professor Snape) Just
> about every other word is "sir". Then I went back
> and looked at other
> times I could find conversation between them. Draco
> uses "sir" all
> the time. Here's two examples, just quoting Draco's
> lines:
>
I don't think I ever picked up on Draco's address of
Snape. Well picked out Potioncat! Everyone keeps
saying that this is antiquated and seems stifling
today. I can't help but wonder how everyone else on
the list addresses their elders, professors, teachers,
mentors etc. Personally I went to high school 3 years
in Mississippi and the only reason my history teacher
didn't kick me out of her class anytime I forgot to
say Ma'am is because she knew I was a Yank.
Now that I've learned it, I seriously think it's just
absolute good manners. I almost cringe to hear people
being too informal. In the American South, it's a
degree of respect you show for everyone whether or not
you like them. It's certainly more of a pleasure to
use such niceties when it is someone you truly do
admire and respect (as I'm sure it is for Malfoy.)
Ellyddan -- just a little 2 cents there.
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