The good Slytherin

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No: HPFGUIDX 131324

> Betsy Hp:
<SNIP>
Because I *do* agree that the 
interest in pure-blood is the negative aspect of Slytherin house 
that *must* be changed in order for Hogwarts to work as one.  It's 
that negative ideology that Voldemort played on to gather his Death 
Eaters and so it falls under the "Voldemort's Shadow" that I see as 
darkening Slytherin house.


Alla:

MAHAHAHA! Told you - miracles do happen sometimes. :-)


> >>Alla wrote earlier:
> >The reason why I think that "purebloodism" IS Slytherin's house 
> ideology is because we have not seen ANY Slytherin yet  (in the 
> younger generation at least) who does not share  such ideology.
>> <snip>
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> No, it's evidence of Harry's blinders when it comes to that 
> particular house.  He's decided they're all bad, so they're all 
bad 
> and none of them are worth listening to.  
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Alla:

Erm, NO, not really. Unless of course under evidence of Harry's 
blinders you mean the fact that he have not noticed the good 
Slytherin yet. Am I making sense? I would absolutely agree that for 
plot purposes Harry and us, readers, do not see good Slytherin, but 
I think that those Slytherins which Harry already SAW are evaluated 
quite objectively, be it Harry POV or not.

I mean, we primarily saw  Draco and his chronies as representatives 
of Slytherins, right?

Now, you like Draco, I ... well, pretty much hate him, but we do 
agree that ideology  he expresses is a bad one, right?

So, yes, I think what Harry saw in Slytherin House he evaluates 
quite objectively.

It is VERY possible that he did not see everything yet, but really, 
I would be quite dissapointed if he changes his POV as to what he 
already saw, IMO only of course.



> Betsy Hp:
> Of course they don't.  Because they don't appeal to *Harry* that 
> much.  Until Luna came along the books implied that all Ravenclaws 
> were book-loving, library-living, nerds.  Until we met Cedric all 
> Hufflepuffs seemed like rule-following, stay-with-the-herd, 
> lemmings.  And until we meet the "good Slytherin" all Slytherins 
> appear to be rasicist little facists, hiss worthy at age eleven.  

Alla:

NO again, because I extremely dislike  the ideology these Slytherins 
express. I maintain that this is quite objective POV. Look, 
regardless of who would be describing Draco's spitting "Mudblood" at 
Hermione, be it  McGonagall, Hagrid, Harry, or Snape, it would be 
quite enough  for me to  think that Slytherin's ideas  equal "BAD" 
ideas.

It may be unfair to think of the whole house when I only hear Draco, 
but again, I have not met other Slytherins yet, not really.

And believe me, I had absolutely no negative feelings towards either 
Ravenclaws in general or Hufflepuffs in general before we met Luna 
or Cedric.

Slytherin House pretty much stood up to me as house of racists, 
fascists, antisemits ( pick any RL equivalent you want).


I said it many times, it indeed bothers  me that quarter of 
wisarding kids is signed up to be future villains of WW at the age 
of eleven and I indeed hope that it is not so, but so far  I saw 
little evidence to the contrary.



JMO,

Alla.