[HPforGrownups] Re: Matriarchal books?

Madam Marozi madam_marozi at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 24 11:53:03 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 131371

phoenixgod2000:

>Why portray men as so incompetent when
> it comes to 
> relationships and family while women are
> inexplicibly knowing?

Marozi:

This doesn't really strike me as an accurate
assessment at all.  Lupin is probably the most
observant, empathetic, and communication-savvy
character in the series.  Whereas Molly believes that
Hermione is a heartbreaking tramp because she read it
in the paper.

phoenixgod2000:
 
> Why is Ginny more confident with her first boyfriend
> than most women 
> five years older than her and many more guys under
> their belts?  

Marozi:

Ginny has six older brothers.  She's not surprisingly
comfortable with boys.  Though she wasn't very
confident with her first crush.

phoenixgod2000:

> Why is Hermione so knowledgeable about dating when
> she only has about 
> fifteen more minutes of experience than both of the
> boys.

Marozi:

Hermione did wipe the floor with Ron in the
post-Yule-Ball argument.  But knowledgeable- "you
should have told her how ugly you think I am?"  I'm
not so sure she's quite the expert she presents
herself as in OotP. What about this:

Of course, she would have been expecting him to ask
her out after what had just happened...The thought
made his stomach clench painfully.

  'Oh well,' said Hermione distantly, buried in her
letter once more, 'you'll have plenty of opportunities
to ask her...'

  'What if he doesn't want to ask her?' said Ron, who
had been watching Harry with an unusually shrewd
expression on his face. 

  'Don't be silly,' said Hermione vaguely, 'Harry's
liked her for ages, haven't you, Harry?' (us pb 460)

There's a lot more to emotional intelligence than
knowing who likes who.  

phoenixgod2000:

> Why is it interesting and compelling to knock James
> off his pedestal 
> while Saint!Lily gets to walk around with a gleaming
> halo?

Marozi:

Lily doesn't really come across as a saint in SWM. 
She comes across as a fairly typical type of teenage
girl who enjoys dramatizing righteous indignation and
disdain.  Even Harry notices that she has to try not
to smile.  

She certainly doesn't help Snape any. And she
apparently doesn't have a thing to say about *Sirius*
being arrogant and bullying.  Just that Potter.  She
can't stand him!  He's such a jerk! *tosses hair*

phoenixgod2000:

> And was Arthur Weasley always missing a backbone or
> did Molly just 
> grind into dust while they were married? 

Marozi:

His manner may be meek but he's got a will of his own.
 His way of dealing with Molly seems to be to do as he
pleases and let her get on with the yelling.  After
20+ years, he knew how she would react to the
stitches, but he did it anyway because he wanted to. 
And it's Arthur, not Molly, who's angry at Percy.

phoenixgod2000:

> Are there any good,
> strong fathers in 
> the book other than five minutes of older James?  

Marozi:

...Aragog?  *runs*




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