Would an "O" for Harry vindicate Snape?

[amiabledorsai]

No: HPFGUIDX 131523

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hickengruendler"
<hickengruendler at y...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "horridporrid03" 
> <horridporrid03 at y...> wrote:
>  
> > 
> > Betsy Hp:
> > Okay, I'll bite.  But first I have to ask, what abusive methods?  
> > Making Harry call him sir?  Demanding potions be done correctly?  
> > Disliking class disruptions?  Throw some canon at me, because I 
> > seriously don't know what you're talking about when you 
> say "abusive 
> > methods".

> Hickengruendler:
> 
> The only part where I would call Snape abusive is the scene with 
> Neville's toad. I find this mentally abusive towards Neville, even
if 
> Snape didn't really plan to poison Trevor (which I admit is 
> possible). Even making Neville think that he would kill his beloved 
> pet is clearly crossing the line, IMO. 

>From "Prisoner of Azkaban": "Possibly no one's warned you, Lupin, but
this class contains Neville Longbottom. I would advise you not to
entrust him with anything difficult. Not unless Miss Granger is
hissing instructions in his ear."

This is completely over the top--abuse, gratuitous abuse, pure and
simple.  

> I also wanted to mention the comment regarding Hermione's teeth,
but 
> it was not really abusive just mean. 

I disagree.  It was a deliberate insult of a distressed student, not
associated with her behavior or performance in class--abuse, full
stop.

> a.) Snape's teaching methods did have some success in the end, 
> because Neville passed the OWL. Snape's lessons are hard, but so is 
> life and Neville has to master this as well. The Potion OWLs are a 
> step in the right direction.

If Neville gets an OWL in Potions, it probably means that Hermione is
an effective tutor.  

Amiable Dorsai