Couple of questions after CoS reread
M.Clifford
Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Fri Mar 4 04:21:29 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 125469
> Alla wrote:
> <snip>
> > Now, it is a fact that Dumbledore suspected Tom Riddle back in
> the days, right? Does it mean that he knew for sure that
> Riddle/Voldie is back in Hogwarts?
> >
> > If said conclusion is true, does it mean that Harry's struggle
> > in CoS was also just a test or at least half-test
> >
> Hannah: I think Dumbledore always knew, or strongly suspected it
> was Riddle the first time. ...edit When the attacks began again,
> DD knew it must be LV behind it, ...edit.. But he doesn't know how
> LV is achieving it, as he says to McGonagall. I always find it a
> bit hard to believe that DD couldn't
> have worked out a bit more than he did, given his supposed
> omniscience. That's never sat easily with me. If he was doing it
> to test Harry, it was a massive risk. It was only luck that none
> of the students attacked actually looked the basilisk in the eye.
Valky:
I have a theory about that, which was a discussion point not so long
ago here.
First, I agree that DD was trying to find out how Riddle was in
Hogwarts this second time, and I also found it didn't sit well with
me that he didn't *find out* sooner, I was a regular user of The
Magic Dishwasher (See Fantasic Posts).
With such an annoying itch, one must scratch so I came up with some
thoughts when discussing Time-turning and that led me to a new point
of veiw regarding what Omniescent Dumbledore would have been doing
during COS. I now approach the question from this angle. It *wasn't*
luck that nobody died!
A closer look shows that only two of the cases were not explained by
things that weren't purely chance. Moaning Myrtle saved Mrs Norris
because the Basilisk and Ginny!Tom disturbed her, the result was not
unusual: Myrtles had a tantrum, Ginny is crying and fighting Tom,
Mrs Norris comes to investigate, looks at the water, sees the
Basilisk - case solved.
In the case of Hermione and Penelope, Hermione had figured it out
already so that case is closed quickly too.
Justin and Colin were the ONLY ones who were petrified after DD had
figured out what was going on and was trying to solve the case and
before DD was made to leave Hogwarts.
Now lets put ourselves in DD shoes. One relatively omniescent
personage in a *very* big house with a *lot* of young muggleborns in
his care, two important objectives to achieve.
1. Find out how Riddle is doing it.
2. Make sure noone gets killed.
Which priority is highest?
So solving the case is secondary priority to saving kids. Which
means he has to spend a lot more time watching the muggleborns
closely, this doesn't include Ginny Weasley, so she's able to slip
under his nose for a while and carry on as Toms puppet without DD
being suspicious.
A big clue to DD having been a protective prescence is Colin's
petrification. He was saved by his camera. In the Entrance Hall.
After the Quidditch match.
An assumption Colin was actually taking photographs at this time
doesn't add up. Colin undoubtedly already has plenty of pictures of
the Entrance Hall, and besides he just went to Quidditch, surely he
used all his film on that.
Then we have Dumbledore coming down the stairs for a refill of hot
chocolate at the same moment. Well maybe. But then maybe he had some
of his silver instruments aligned to detect lone muggleborns roaming
the castle and was rushing downstairs after hearing the alarm bells.
hmmm that makes more sense. Did Dumbledore conjure up some really
cool magical illusion ahead of him to make Colin put his camera to
his face? I think *at least* so.
The staff all seemed to know that it was DD that was preventing the
muggleborns from being killed, I take that very much for granted to
be authoritative.
So my theory, Dumbledore wasn't testing Harry. Harry just managed to
make himself very helpful. Dumbledore *was* trying to handle the
incedent himself, although he intuitively knew that Harry was on the
case and did all he could to leave behind some help for Harry.
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