Percy and the Twins (was: Weasley Types (was Molly and Arthur )

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No: HPFGUIDX 125497


>>Betsy: 
>And, honestly, I don't really blame [Percy] for leaving.  Beyond 
the whole, "you got your job so they could use you to spy on me," 
argument, the twins were horrible to him.  And I don't recall either 
parent doing anything to protect Percy from them.<

>>Joe in SoFla: 
>I don't think--and I may be a crowd of one on this--that the twins  
were particularly HORRIBLE to Percy. Yes, they teased him and yes, 
they made fun of him, but I don't know that what they did to him 
rose to the standard of an "attack."<
 
>>Tayla:
>I think that we can all agree that F&G are immature, even for their 
age, and that they don't see their jokes in the same light as many 
of their peers, but I have to agree with Joe on this, I don't think 
that their "attacks" were just that.<

Betsy (hoping she assigned everyone to their words correctly!):
But they never let up on Percy.  Ever.  Percy is *always* their 
target, from the introduction of the Weasley family in PS/SS until 
Percy finally leaves home by the beginning of OotP.  And the twins 
never stop.  It's always two against one (and sometimes even four 
against one).  And there is absolutely no mention of any retaliation 
on Percy's part, at all.

No, the twins behavior swiftly leaves the land of "funny" and enters 
the land of "persecution" by the time GoF rolls around.  If I'd been 
in Percy's shoes, I'd have left home as soon as I was of age.

>>Julie: (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/125492)
>Regarding the twins and Percy, Fred and George do indeed torment 
Percy. It's not uncommon for siblings to torment each other (and 
that's an understatement!). Again, they're teenagers, which isn't an 
excuse, but it is a reason for their immaturity and their lack of 
perception (that tormenting Percy isn't a constructive act). 
Siblings pick on each other because they are "safe" targets (friends 
might end the relationship, but siblings can't). But I don't see the
twins as horrible, just immature.<

Betsy:
And that's why I don't give Molly or Arthur a pass on this.  
Siblings can and will treat each other badly.  It's the parents job 
to make sure no one goes too far.  Molly and Arthur failed Percy 
horribly in this regard.  And again, it's the fact that Percy was 
always the twins chosen victim that bothers me.  (I think Ron should 
be very grateful that the twins left school so quickly after Percy 
did.  Ron has a lot more in common with Percy than he'd like to 
admit, and the twins know it.  If they hadn't been so caught up with 
Umbridge and their joke shop, I think Ron would have had a miserable 
fifth year.)



>>Tayla: 
>We do know that F&G took particular offence to the way that Percy 
was treating them all after getting his job at the MOM, so could it 
just be that they decided that by pranking him at the very place 
that he prides himself in would be fitting considering Percy seemed 
to be attacking his own family?<

Betsy:
Tayla, you'll need to cite some canon of Percy attacking his family 
when he first gets his job at the Ministry, because as far as I can 
remember, it didn't happen.  The twins are upset because Percy takes 
his job seriously, seems to be moving ahead, and requests some 
*gasp* quiet so that he can get some work done while at home.  The 
twins, apparently, hate the idea of Percy being happy.  
  
>>Tayla: 
>Percy is exhibiting far too many symptoms that we have seen in our 
own history for me to be comfortable with him around.  I cannot 
remember the exact name they used for it, but we did see some 
very "Percyish" behavior in Nazi Germany with their own young.  Is 
it disturbing, absolutely.  But then again, and I am sorry, but 
Percy is disturbing.<

Betsy:
Again, please cite canon.  Arthur says that Percy only got his 
position so that the Ministry can spy on the family (OotP).  He 
doesn't accuse Percy of spying himself.  And it could be argued that 
by breaking with his family Percy makes sure that he *cannot* be 
used as a spy.  How could he possibly keep Fudge informed of his 
family's movements if he won't even see them?

Betsy