[HPforGrownups] Re: SHIP: Would Ron really be the one for her?

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Polly Nesbitt wrote:

> This whole Ron-Hermione thing just  doesn´t seem right. Ron seems 
to be the kind of guy who falls for everyone.  He´s had several 
crushes,  other than Hermione ( Fleur, Rosmerta, the  Veelas) so I 
think the fact that he should like her, is just his way being.  He 
likes girls in general.

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Hannah: 
 Welcome Polly! It's not a feeble idea, there are plenty of 
very  vehement Harry/Hermione shippers out there.

I never get terribly worked  up about 'Ships,' but I've always 
assumed Ron would end up with  Hermione.  It's true Ron had a crush 
on Fleur, and expressed some  interest in Rosmerta and the Veelas (as 
did Harry and every other male in  the latter case), but then, he's a 
fifteen year old boy!   <snip>
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Chancie:  
 
Welcome again Polly!
I'd just like to add, that I don't think that the fact that Ron had a 
"crush" on Fleur and the Veelas really says much for his just
"liking girls in general"  Veelas have special powers over men,
causing them to be pretty much uncontrollable in front of them,
and since Fleur is part-Veela, I would consider that to basically be
the same thing.  MANY other guys were attracted to Fleur, to the
point of crowding around her, so I think that adds to the point that
she had some of the Veela's power over men.
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Polly again:

> Now  Hermione is a smart girl and I don´t think she´d be content 
with   someone like Ron who falls for every other girl that comes his 
way.( >  Although, I do believe that she actually did like Ron at first, 
until >  she realized the kind of guy he is).  
> 

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Hannah again:
 
I don't think there's any reason for Hermione to reject 
him on those  grounds.  It's not even like Ron's actually doing 
anything with any of  those women.  He may fall from them all now, 
but it's likely that when  he's older - and in a relationship - that 
will change, or at least, he'll  learn to be less obvious about it ;-)

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Chancie now:
 
OK I must admit that I'm kind of confused by all this "someone 
like Ron who falls for every other girl that comes his way" quote.
We've known Ron thru the course of 5 years and liking Rosemerita,
Fleur, and Hermione, qualifies him as someone who falls over every
girl that crosses his path??  Sorry I don't buy that one!  If  anything 
I would consider that a bit conservative!  If anyone can add some  other
examples and prove me wrong I would love to debate them with you!
 
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Polly  said:
> Besides, I think Hermione has realized this and has turned her  
> attention to Harry. Specially now that Cho is out of the  way..
(Beside the fact that she never was a real threat to begin  with).



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Hannah once again:
 
I don't really see any evidence of Hermione having turned her  
attention to Harry.  Indeed, I don't see much evidence for Hermione  
being that attentive romantically to either boy, with the exception 
of  her anger over the Yule Ball.  Of course, there are some good 
arguments  for H/HR.  But I don't think R/HR can be dismissed on the 
grounds of  Ron's crush on Fleur Delacoeur and a comment about Madam 
Rosmerta  alone.


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Chancie:
 
Again sorry to say that I disagree Polly.  Except for the point 
about "she was never really a threat to begin with" if Hermione
was attracted to Harry, why would she try to explain why Cho
was acting the way she was?  If she was secretly crushing on
Harry, she wouldn't want to help his relationship with Cho, she'd
be wanting them to brake up!  I can't see anything that points  to
Hermione wanting Harry for anything more than a friend.  Some 
people point to the fact that Hermione is more comfortable with 
Harry than she seems to be with Ron. But that's because they 
are truly just friends and that's all either of them wants. They 
both know that so it doesn't need to be awkward.  They are 
just friends.I see Ron and Hermione as a couple of teenagers 
who like each other but are too scared to say so for fear the 
other doesn't feel the same way.  That would be too awkward, 
and knowing they would have to see this person everyday might 
make things too uncomfortable so they just avoid the subject.  
Except for the Yule Ball!  Hermione was upset at Ron for
not seeing her as a regular girl.  And her feelings were hurt that  he
thought of her as a last resort, just in case I can't get anyone else  to
take me ... kind of thing. That leads up to Ron and Hermione's  fight in
the common room.  
 
    He [Harry] climbed into the common  room and found Ron 
    and Hermione having a blazing row.  Standing  ten feet apart, 
    they were bellowing at each other, each scarlet in  the face.
    
    Well, if you don't like it, you know what the  solution is, don't 
    you?" yelled Hermione; her hair was coming down  out of its 
    elegant bun now, and her face screwed up in  anger.
 
   "Oh yeah?" Ron yelled back. "What's that?"
 
   "Next time there's a ball, ask me before someone else does 
   and not as a last resort!"
 
   Ron mouthed soundlessly like a goldfish out of water as 
   Hermione turned on her heel and stormed up the girls'  staircase 
   to bed. Ron turned to look at Harry.
 
   "Well," he sputtered, looking thunderstruck, "well-- that  just proves--
   completely missed the point--"
 
   Harry didn't say anything. He liked being back on speaking  terms 
   with Ron too much to speak his mind now--but he somehow  thought 
   that Hermione had gotten the point much better than Ron  had.
 
GOF Chapter 23 The Yule Ball.  Page 432 American  version.
 
I think this greatly adds to the whole Ron/Hermione SHIP.   Hermione
uses this as an opportunity try to bring up the subject of them.  She 
wants to see how he reacts, if he feels the same way.  Ron, is  totally
shocked that she could see that he really liked her and that's where
the statement he made to Harry comes in.  If Hermione didn't like  Ron,
she wouldn't say "ask me first next time."  She wouldn't want her to  hurt 
her friend's feelings by after saying this and Ron coming to ask her  "oh
sorry Ron, I know I told you to ask me to the next ball, but you see the 
thing is I really like Harry and not you."  That's not Hermione! She  
wouldn't 
toy with someone's emotions!  And I don't think any one would disput 
the fact that Ron likes Hermione, or else the subject of Viktor Krum 
wouldn't be such a touchy one!.  
 
Also another hit against the Harry/Hermione Ship,  JKR said their  
relationship
is totally platonic!!!!
 
Chancie~who can remember all too well how she felt when she was a 
teenager with a crush, and is glad to be married and done with the  dating
games!!!!
 
 


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