[HPforGrownups] SHIP: Ginny and Harry. AND Would Ron really be the one f...

[BrwNeil at aol.com]

No: HPFGUIDX 125562

 
 
In a message dated 3/5/2005 12:33:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,  
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com writes:

I don't  know if I buy Tonks analogy, but I tend to agree with her 
that if Harry  ends up surviving ( pretty pleae, JKR:o)) and with 
girlfriend - it will be  Ginny or Luna or any other secondary 
character ( Parvaty, Susan  Bones,whoever). Simply because to me text 
SO clearly points to Ron and  Hermione.

So clearly points to Ron and Hermione.  My question  is why?  JKR has kept us 
guessing about everything else in her story.   Why in text and interviews is 
she practically shoving Ron/Hermione down our  throats?
 
After five books, we still don't know if Snape is good or bad.  JKR  sure 
made him look bad in book one and he has treated Harry nastily ever  since.  In 
CoS did anyone guess that Ginny was writing on the walls or  would be taken 
into the chamber.  How many of you thought that Sirius was a  good guy in PoA, 
especially after he cut Ron's bed hanging with a knife.  
 
I'm sure it was obvious to everyone right from the beginning of GoF that we  
weren't dealing with the real Moody.  The only character that JKR has been  
totaling honest with is Umbridge.  We knew she was totally bad from the  
beginning.
 
How about Black dying, was that suspected?  Rowling on many occasions  had 
said how much she loved the character of Hagrid.  It was even  publicized that 
Robbie Coltrane was only committed to the movie series up  to book four.
 
Does it make sense that this woman deceives us in her books and interviews  
on every other subject, but then makes it quite clear that Ron and Hermione  
are destine to be together?
 
I agree that everything that she has said and all the obvious bickering  
indicates something could happen between Ron and Hermione.  Sometimes it  just 
seems too obvious.
 
We now seem, in the series, to have gone from a trio to a sextet.  Of  course 
that doesn't mean they will pair off or that other characters might not  be 
involved, but lets look at the possibilities.  JKR isn't writing a  porno, so 
we can eliminate a Ron/Ginny pairing.  I also believe her when  she says that 
Neville and Luna is not going to happen.  That leaves  the following 
possibilities, assuming all live:
 
Harry---Ginny, Luna, Hermione, Cho OC.
Hermione--Harry, Ron, Neville, Krum, OC.
Ron--Hermione, Luna, OC
Ginny--Harry, Neville, OC
Neville--Hermione, Ginny, OC
Luna--Harry, Ron, OC.
 
Isn't it interesting that the 'unattractive' Hermione has the most possible  
contenders.  
 
Let's start with Luna.  She has a rather obvious liking for Ron, but  at the 
end of OotP she and Harry seem to find a connection. 
 
Nevillle has always been treated nicely by Hermione.  He asked her to  the 
ball.  He ended up going with Ginny, although she went with him just to  get 
there.  Neville went to Ginny's aid in OotP.
 
Ginny had an obvious crush on Harry in book two.  We saw little of her  in 
book three or four expect her disappointment at not being able to go with  Harry 
to the ball.  In book five she seems to have lost that crush, but has  she.  
She certainly isn't a shy timid girl anymore.  She defends  Neville, saying he 
isn't a nobody.  Is the most involved with OCs.
 
Ron gave the impression in GoF that good looks was the only important  
quality in a girl.  Yet he ignored Padma and spent the entire night  watching 
Hermione and Krum.  The most upsetting part of JKR's books is that  we only see 
things from Harry's view point and only what he sees and  hears.  What was that 
conversation Ron and Hermione had really about?   What were they both really 
thinking and saying.  Luna seems to like Ron,  but he seems to regard her as a 
weirdo.  From Harry's point of view it  seems Ron likes Hermione and is jealous 
of Krum.  I can't believe that in  the year and a half since the ball, Ron and 
Harry have never discussed what took  place.  Ron and Hermione constantly 
fight, but is the fighting really  hiding other feelings. 
 
Harry is done with Cho.  I think this is obvious from the way he  describes 
his feelings.  He isn't upset to see her with someone else.   Harry thinks Luna 
is weird, but has formed sort of a bond with her.  She is  a outcast, and he 
has always felt like he was one also.  They can talk, and  understand each 
other.  Honestly although Ginny's role in the story  has increased and she is now 
a much stronger character, there isn't much  interaction between her and 
Harry.  I know many people ship H/G, but what,  besides her crush, has shown any 
connection between the two.  I realize  Harry saved her from the chamber, but I 
feel he would have saved anyone,
 
As for Harry and Hermione, there has been no sign of any feelings beyond  
friendship.  He needs her, but not necessarily in a romantic way.   Harry thinks 
of Ron as his best friend, but in fact, Hermione has been more  responsible 
for his success than Ron.  In PoA and OotP, it was  mostly Harry and Hermione 
doing things while Ron was the comic relief.
 
Hermione is the key character.  The unknown quantity.  Rowling  could destroy 
all the R/H and H/H shippers by having her relationship with Krum  grow into 
something special.  Hasn't Rowling said that Krum will make a  reappearance in 
the story.  Truthfully, as she originally was described,  Hermione seemed 
best suited for Neville.  She changed as the story has  evolved.  Her and Harry 
work well together and are great friends, but can  it go further.  And can a 
relationship between Ron and Hermione survive all  the fighting.  To me they are 
like oil and water.  If not for Harry, I  doubt their friendship would have 
ever lasted.
 
Now we finally come to the conclusion of my rambling where everybody knows  I 
will make predictions.  Unfortunately I have two sets.  What I wish  would 
happen and what I think will happen.  I'd like to see H/Hr, R/L and  N/G, but 
that's not what I expect to happen.  I believe in the chess theory  which means 
that Ron will die in the final battle so that Hermione and Harry can  go on to 
defeat Voldemort.  I feel that the final defeat of Voldemort will  actually 
be cased by Hermione.  It just seems right that the mudblood  should have a big 
part in bringing him down.  The question is whether  she will die doing so.  
The only couple I'm predicting is N/G.   Neville will also become a Hogwarts 
Professor. 
 
 

Neil
. 


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]