Wizard supremacy(was:Re: Nel Question #4: Class and Elitism)

Tammy elsyee_h at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 9 12:32:47 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 125768


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> wrote:
> 
> > > a_svirn wrote:
> > > 1. <snip> Muggles are not capable of magic while wizards are. 
> > > That makes wizards a breed apart and infinitely superior one
> > > at that. <snip>
> >  
> > Tammy <elsyee_h at y...> replies:
> > I take exception to that... Muggles and Wizards are basically 
> > "made" differently - it doesn't make one superior to the other. 
> > Men are made differently from women - which makes them able to 
> > pee standing up. And while I (at times) wish I had that ability,
> > it doesn't mean they're superior 'cause they've got it.
> 
> a_svirn:
> 
> Well, it's certainly a rather eloquent example, but misleading I'm 
> afraid. Cats are also made differently from mice: they could play 
> with them and eat them when they feel like it, while mice can only 
> flee and hide. Does it make cats superior? I'd say yes. However for 
> sake of political correctness we can agree that they are 
> just "different". 

Tammy:
Your example is no less misleading than mine. In my example, we're
talking about two members of the same species. Your example is two
different species. Are you trying to say that Wizards and Muggles are
two different species then? If so, how do you get muggleborns? And
where do squibs come from then?

> 
> Tammy:
> > As for the separation of the two, it's necessary. Muggles would
> > constantly be looking for magical solutions to their problems, if 
> > they actually managed to accept it. In all likelihood, it would
> > return to the days of witch trials, because we don't like something
> > we can't understand. Magic is the core of "things you can't 
> > understand." 
> 
> 
> a_svirn:
> 
> Necessary for whom? From what you say certainly not for Muggles. And 
> it's wizards' point of view that counts, does it not?  
> 
> a_svirn

Tammy:
It's necessary for both muggles and wizards. Muggles are happier not
knowing about magic. Actually, we're happier not knowing about a lot
of things. Look back into history - we once knew the world was flat.
When people tried to say differently they were killed. We once knew we
were the center of the universe. Anyone who said anything else was
killed. Muggles through the ages have proven that they just can't
handle their beliefs being challenged and changed. Would muggles
eventually come to understand it? Sure, if given enough time. But in
the meantime how many witches and wizards would have to die?

And it's necessary for wizards and witches as well. As Hagrid says,
muggles would constantly want a magical solution to their problems.
And I'm not talking about just the big ones like medical problems or
electricity. I think the wizarding would could easily, and happily,
provide some of those bigger things to the muggles if not for the
Secrecy Statute. It's the smaller things, like cleaning and cooking. 

Muggles could conceivably end up enslaving wizards. And before you say
that would never happen - how did house elves end up as slaves? House
elves seems to have powers that are different enough and in some ways
more powerful than wizards and witches, yet they are still working as
slaves. Dobby can apparate in Hogwarts where no witch or wizard can.
Why didn't the house-elves just apparate away where no witch or wizard
could find them?

-Tammy







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