Wizard supremacy (was:Re: Nel Question #4: Class and Elitism)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 125823


> Tammy:
> Your example is no less misleading than mine. In my example, we're
> talking about two members of the same species. Your example is two
> different species. Are you trying to say that Wizards and Muggles 
> are two different species then? If so, how do you get muggleborns?
> And where do squibs come from then?

a_svirn:
I am no more saying that muggles and wizards are different species 
than you were saying that they are different genders. I was merely 
pointing out that wizards can CHOOSE to be charitable and leave 
Muggles alone, or CHOOSE to be less charitable and indulge in muggle-
hunting. Muggles can only hope that they won't be singled out for 
wizarding entertainment, because there is nothing whatsoever that 
they can do to prevent it. That makes them inferior.
 
> Tammy:
> Muggles are happier not knowing about magic. Actually, we're happier 
> not knowing about a lot of things. Look back into history - we once 
> knew the world was flat. When people tried to say differently they 
> were killed. We once knew we were the center of the universe. Anyone
> who said anything else was killed. Muggles through the ages have 
> proven that they just can't handle their beliefs being challenged and 
> changed. Would muggles eventually come to understand it? Sure, if 
> given enough time. But in the meantime how many witches and wizards
> would have to die?

a_svirn:
First, you are again championing wizards here, not Muggles. Second, 
who says that wizards and witches "would have to die?" As far as I 
remember from Harry's essay, witches were actually in no danger from 
Muggles. They only needed to perform necessary charm and enjoy 
nice "tickling sensation" instead of burning. 

> Tammy:
> As Hagrid says, muggles would constantly want a magical solution 
> to their problems. And I'm not talking about just the big ones like
> medical problems or electricity. I think the wizarding world could
> easily, and happily, provide some of those bigger things to the 
> muggles if not for the Secrecy Statute. It's the smaller things, 
> like cleaning and cooking. 

a_svirn:
And? Why not? If magic can save innocent lives from diseases, 
starvation and God knows what else why not help fellow humans? Are 
we back to the conviction that Muggles are not worthy of magic 
because they are inferior? And notice that Hagrid's attitude towards 
Muggles is one of the most hostile in the series. It could have been 
Malfoy talking.

> Tammy:
> Muggles could conceivably end up enslaving wizards.

a_svirn:
My imagination fails me there. Could you please elaborate? 

> Tammy:
> And before you say that would never happen - how did house elves 
> end up as slaves? 

a_svirn:
How can I possibly know? Only JKR knows the answer at this stage. 

a_svirn