DD as HBP/Heir of Gryffindor (was: HBP)

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No: HPFGUIDX 125915


Dungrollin theorized:
> DD is not only the HBP, he is also a descendant of Gryffindor. DD 
> owns the house in Godric's Hollow. He got a tip-off that Voldy was 
> after the Potters, he knew it was because of the prophecy, but he 
> hadn't told *anyone* about it. He went to the Potters and convinced 
> them to go into hiding, offering his own house in GH. 
> 
> He *also* convinced them to use the fidelius charm, and he wanted 
> to be their secret-keeper. He didn't tell them about the prophecy, 
> though, because he knew someone close to them was a spy, and he 
> didn't want Voldy to think that *he* thought it was important. 
> Because the Potters didn't, therefore, know that Harry is one of 
> only two people with the power to get rid of Voldy for good, they 
> didn't think it was necessary to have DD as secret-keeper (all the 
> way up in the Highlands), and they stuck with Sirius (at least to 
> start with). 
> 
> Events unfolded, and DD learned of what happened immediately 
> because there's a painting of Gryffindor in the house in GH and a 
> painting of him in the Headmaster's study at Hogwarts.


SSSusan:
I have a bit of a different take.  The house in GH is the Potters' 
house, because James is a descendant of Bowman Wright, inventor of 
the Golden Snitch, who lived in GH.  That's where James got the 
family money – Wright managed to make a killing from this (and 
perhaps from selling other Quidditch-related gear, as the popularity 
of Q. surely soared after the snitch made playing the game more 
available to the masses).  

DD told James & Lily about the prophecy.  However, he was *not* the 
Secret Keeper because he convinced J&L that he was such an obvious 
target for Voldy to come after, that he didn't want to have that 
knowledge in his possession if Voldy should do so.  Thus, DD 
suggested Sirius.  James & Lily – for *whatever* reason [still don't 
know this part] – were suspicious of either Sirius or Lupin *OR* 
believed Sirius when he suggested that NO ONE in his right mind would 
suspect Peter of being their SK and went with Peter.  

DD did not know where James & Lily were.  However, there *was* a 
portrait in GH which – without a Fidelius Charm in place – could have 
talked with its counterpart in DD's office.  Once Voldy killed James 
& Lily and the house blew up (for whatever reason), the FC was 
broken.  The Hogwarts portrait knew instantly that its counterpart 
had been blown up, and this is what alerted DD to the fact that 
something had gone down at GH and he needed to go check things out.

This is not to say that DD is or isn't the HBP, really; it's just a 
different take on DD's role in the events leading up to the GH 
attack.  I still think it's possible for DD to be the HBP.  I'm just 
not sure what it would *mean* if he is.


Dungrollin: 
> However, I'm now toying with the idea that there was a prophecy 
> about the founders... Binns says: 
> "The story goes that Slytherin had built a hidden chamber in the 
> castle, of which the other founders knew nothing...." 
> The other founders knew nothing, right. So where did the legend
> come from then, I wonder? Perhaps Salazar wasn't above a bit of 
> bragging in the pub. Or was there a prophecy about the heir of 
> Slytherin? "... and none will come after ..." - No more descendents 
> of Slytherin? Either Voldy will live forever, or the Slytherin line 
> will end when he dies.


SSSusan:
What I'm curious about in *this* part of your post, Dungrollin, is 
how DD's possibly being the HBP and GG's descendant would play into 
this.  If the last heir of Slytherin needs to be wiped out, we know 
it is only going to happen by one of the Prophecy Boys, not by DD's 
hand.  So if DD is the HBP and GG's descendant, what is the role he 
would be playing in the elimination of Slytherin's final descendant?

Siriusly Snapey Susan