Wizard supremacy (was:Re: Nel Question #4: Class and Elitism)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 125921



> 
> GEO: Knowledge about how the enemies abilties work would still 
> benefit any military force going up against the wizards. 

a_svirn:
How exactly?


> GEO: 
>  
> > Sirius Black managed to elude both Aurors and Dementors without 
a 
> > wand. And Muggles too for that matter. Harry blew up his aunt  
> > without a wand. Besides it's not that easy to get a wand from a 
> > wizard. They could of course succeed every now and then, but not 
> as 
> > a rule. 
> 
> GEO: Thats because none of the aurors, dementors or policeman knew 
> that Black was capable of transforming into a dog. If they did, I 
> dare say he would have been caught much more earlier. 

a_svirn:

This is probably true. However wizards still can apparate (I maybe 
wrong, but I think it's a kind of wandless magic). And anyway it's 
not easy to disarm a wizard without magic. In fact you only can do 
it if you catch them by surprise. 
>  
> > Lupinlore:
> > > Finally, the wizards are drastically outnumbered. 
> > 
> > a_svirn:
> > 
> > Throughout the history Muggle minorities with better technology 
> > managed to conquer less fortunate majorities. 
> 
> GEO: Please tell that to the Nazis. German technology was much 
more 
> advanced during WW2 yet numerical superiority on the side of the 
> allies was able to nullify any technological superiority that 
Hitler 
> and co. managed to have. 

a_svirn:
Were they? As far as I know allies had the same kind of weapons that 
Germans had: war airplanes, tanks, submarines, destroyers, etc. The 
Nazis might have been a bit ahead when it comes to technology, but 
not that far ahead. By the end of the war it was the allies who had 
a nuclear bomb, not the Nazis. When I spoke about technological 
superiority I meant the situation when one side is armed by bows and 
arrows and the other one with guns and cannons.

> 
> And magic is more effective than technology. So I don't 
> > think numbers are really all that safe. 
> 
> GEO: No it isn't. They might be capable of things that present 
> technology can't achieve however I don't think it's really 
superior. 
> How exactly would they bring down a jet fighter for instance?

a_svirn:


Well, I don't know how they can bring down a jet fighter. But I know 
how wizards can solve the problem of wmd without the least 
difficulty once and for all. They only need to interrogate a dozen 
of the top Muggle officials (like the US and Russian Presidents, and 
British Prime Minister etc.) on the subject of wmd and connected 
programs with Veritaserum. Upon learning where the wmd are kept 
wizards need only vanish them together with the corresponding 
documentation, and then modify memory of all Muggles concerned. In 
fact they could even obliterate the whole knowledge about nuclear 
physics etc for good just as they have obliterated knowledge about 
magic. After they finished the task the whole thing would exist only 
as a stuff of sci-fi novels just as magic is a stuff of fairy-tales. 
I concede that the last task might prove tedious, but not 
impossible. 
a_svirn