Wizard supremacy (was:Re: Nel Question #4: Class and Elitism)

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 125926


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "greatelderone" 
<greatelderone at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> 
wrote:
> > a_svirn:
> > 
> > Not that I think it matters (because I don't believe wizards 
were 
> > beaten), but suppose it does, whose fault is that? While Muggles 
> > are incapable of magic, nothing can stop wizards from mustering 
> > Muggle "fighting tactics". Wizards can do everything Muggles can 
> AND 
> > magic. Surely it gives them a great advantage on Muggles.
> 
> GEO: The development of the military doctrine, training programs 
and 
> technology isn't something that can be done in a few months or 
> years. All the wizards have is magic and a less than stellar 
record 
> of logical reasoning. Plus they don't have a standing army. The 
> aurors are their equivalent of policeman/peacekeepers/jedi not 
> actual soldiers.
> 
> > You are operating on a lot of assumptions here. How exactly can 
> > scientific efficiency hurt wizards? 
> 
> GEO: Scientific efficiency namely a massive industrial base 
capable 
> of creating tanks, guns, planes and ships quickly and efficently 
> would be quite capable of hampering wizards.
> 
> From what we saw in the books 
> > magic is far more efficient than technology. And how do you know 
> > that wizards are amateurs in the games of war? They are 
certainly 
> > adept in killing each other. And they succeeded in overpowering 
> > other magical peoples like goblins for instance. 
> 
> GEO: They have fought against magical enemies however we have 
never 
> seem them fight against a fully trained and equipped standing 
army. 
> The underlying concepts would be quite different and considering 
> that the Ministry has no military command, I think their 
resistance 
> would be effectively futile.

a_svirn:
They don't need to fight against the fully trained army. Wizards can 
make themselves unplottable.  They can apparate to the Muggle 
headquarters and after a few carefully applied Iperios make Muggles 
to aim their amazing ships, planes etc at themselves. They can make 
them issue the orders that ensure the sort of "friendly fire" that 
would turn all that technology into a great smoldering pile. Etc, 
etc, 

a_svirn