Lily's physical description, and a bit more apparently :-)

kellymcj2000 kelly at protocallonline.com
Sat Mar 12 07:19:27 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 125944


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "vmonte" <vmonte at y...> wrote:
> 
Vivian says: He may realize that what he has to do is go 
> back to the past to fullfill some role he played there.
> 
> When he does go back he will be mistaken for James by the DEs, but 
> found out by Snape because he has his mother's eyes. 
> 
> Vivian

Wow Vivian, I'd accuse you of legilimancy but for that eye contact 
is necessary.:)  I've also been expecting the Lily's eyes clue to 
mean Harry will go back in time and be msitaken for James until 
someone notices the eyes are wrong.  

I never considered though that Lily may have stored memories in a 
pensieve.  That's very interesting.  If she did, why?  Would it be 
something she did as a result of knowing the prophecy?    

The idea of Snape making the connection is really intriguing.  Not 
only would he realize this person was not James, but he would also 
know it was Lily and James' son because he himself knows Lily's eyes 
so well.  This last bit is assuming all the speculation about Snape 
crushing on Lily is true.  Maybe it's even Snape's memory in the 
pensieve and Lily has nothing to do with it.

Now I have to back up a bit because there is more than one major 
plot line going on in this scenario.  

If something akin to your thoughts is right, it might explain 
Snape's apparent loyalty to DD and his DE defection.  It always 
seems to me as if Snape doesn't really want to be on DD's side and 
I've often wondered why (assuming he didn't truly have a change of 
heart) he works with the Order and DD.  That is, if he really is 
working for them and isn't a double agent DE sort of thingy.

Is Snape playing nice with DD because the Harry-from-the-future 
saves Snape and really cements the whole wizard life debt?  Or maybe 
something else happens in his encounter with 'He-who-must-not-be-
James' which binds him to some sort of magical law about 
experiencing someone else's future.  

Just imagine if he knew of the prophecy (maybe he was the one thrown 
out of Hog's Head?) and then ran into this guy who looks just like 
James but has Lily's eyes.  Or imaginge he didn't know about any 
prophecy at all and ran into all-grown-up-Harry and figured out who 
he(Harry)was?  I'm not saying any of this really happened or even 
could have happened.  If he'd been the one thrown out DD would 
probably know that.  

All right, so maybe we'd be looking at an explanation of Snape 
changing sides, if in fact he ever really did.  

This could also add another layer of explaination for Snape hating 
Harry but being bound to protect him, whether or not one assumes the 
James life-debt and/or working for the Order provides enough 
explanation.  
I never have btw.  

Then there's the whole possible Lily storyline.  Did she store 
memories in a pensieve and why?  Maybe the big secret about Lily is 
that she's a true seer and she saw something of Harry's future and 
recorded it in the pensieve.  Snape mightn't even be involved at 
all.  Maybe she leaves a message for Harry because she knows what's 
to come.  Actually, this doesn't even have to involve Harry going 
back in time and having her eyes at all.  

So, anyhow Vivian, thanks for some more fuel for the Harry/Lily's 
eyes/time-turner theory.  As my tcfw sis would say-Tote Awes!    


      







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