DD as HBP/Heir of Gryffindor (was: HBP)

dungrollin spotthedungbeetle at hotmail.com
Sat Mar 12 09:43:51 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 125948


> Dungrollin: 
> > However, I'm now toying with the idea that there was a prophecy 
> > about the founders... Binns says: 
> > "The story goes that Slytherin had built a hidden chamber in the 
> > castle, of which the other founders knew nothing...." 
> > The other founders knew nothing, right. So where did the legend
> > come from then, I wonder? Perhaps Salazar wasn't above a bit of 
> > bragging in the pub. Or was there a prophecy about the heir of 
> > Slytherin? "... and none will come after ..." - No more 
> > descendents of Slytherin? Either Voldy will live forever, or the 
> > Slytherin line will end when he dies.
> 
> 
> SSSusan:
> What I'm curious about in *this* part of your post, Dungrollin, is 
> how DD's possibly being the HBP and GG's descendant would play 
> into this.  If the last heir of Slytherin needs to be wiped out, 
> we know it is only going to happen by one of the Prophecy Boys, 
> not by DD's hand.  So if DD is the HBP and GG's descendant, what 
> is the role he would be playing in the elimination of Slytherin's 
> final descendant?
> 

Just because it's Harry who'll cast the AK (or whatever) doesn't 
mean that he can do it without DD's help (in fact, if DD hadn't 
saved the day Voldy could have won several times over by now). And 
who says the heir of Slytherin has to be killed by a descendant of 
Gryffindor, anyway? 

I was thinking more along the lines of a prophecy predicting that 
Gryffindor and Slytherin would fall out, and the chamber and stuff, 
and maybe even an intergenerational feud between the two families. 
It could be specific enough to say that a descendant of Gryffindor 
would discover the means of destroying the heir of Slytherin, but 
that the heir of Slytherin will kill him. 

Which makes a kind of twisted sense, actually - if DD has known for 
30 years that Voldy is going to kill him, he's got to plan very very 
carefully so that Harry is prepared enough to continue the fight 
once he's popped his clogs. 

Which brings me onto something else. I'm convinced that DD knows a 
*lot* about Voldy that he hasn't told yet. "...knowing him as I have 
done..." The nature of his immortality experiments, for example; and 
the circumstances of his birth, the murders of his father and 
grandparents, all that stuff and more. Didn't Arthur Levine say in 
that interview when the cover illustration was unveiled that we'd 
learn a lot more about Voldemort in HBP? I think it's time for some 
filling in on what he got up to in VW1, and indeed what he did on 
his holidays beforehand.

Anyway, I'm not convinced that the HBP has to have anything to do 
with royalty. "... champion of commoners, of Mudbloods and 
Muggles ..." - it does sound like a eulogy, doesn't it?
If DD's for the chop, then I'd expect the book he dies in to be 
named in his honour - JKR is rather fond of him, after all, and she 
did as much for Sirius.

Dungrollin
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