All the possible OWLS - Who got what?

[stbjohn2]

No: HPFGUIDX 125957


--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "stbjohn2" <stbjohn2 at y...> 
wrote:
> > 
> > --- > 
> > > Amy wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > ... if anyone is going to get 12 OWLs it will be Hermione.
> > > > 
> > > > I like your[Hannah's] idea that maybe there are different
> > > > types of OWLs within each subject.  I truly believe that this 
> > > > would make the most  sense ...
> 
> > > 
> > Brent says:
> > > I always assumed the practical and written were considered 2 
> > > separate OWLs.  ...
>  
> 
> > Sandy now:
> > 
> >  From the 2004 World Book Day Chat:
> > 
> > faye109: Is 12 the maximum possible number of OWLs one can 
achieve?
> >
> > JK Rowling replies -> Yes, I think it is off the top of my head.
> > 
> > ... she says 12 is the most, so we have to trust her. Every 
> > convoluted method of assigning two OWLs in some subjects exceeds 
12.
>> > I've previously posted several pieces of canon that support the 
> > one-subject, one-OWL position; but briefly, in their talks to
> > classes about OWLs, both Snape and McGonagall tell the 
students "I 
> > expect you to earn an OWL" in this subject, ...
> > 
> > I guess we, like Harry, will find out for sure in July :>)
> >

> 
> 
> bboyminn:
> 
>> 
> Having said all that, I think it is most likely that JKR created 12
> subject and assumed one OWL per subject, without really sitting down
> and analyzing the details of that OWL testing system. And that is a
> reasonable thing for an author to do.


Sandy: 
I agree, and that's what sent me looking through canon for support to 
begin with.


bboyminn wrote: > 

(Accidently snipped the part where Steve suggests students can sit an 
OWL without taking the class.)

Sandy: I'm willing to buy that -- it's a lot more comforting to think 
of Barty Crouch Jr. joining the 12 OWL Club because he spent holidays 
boning up on extra textbooks, rather than running around with a time 
turner for a couple of terms.

bboyminn wrote:
> 
> Conclusion, I think it is safe to say that Hermione got 11 OWLs 
(getting one in Muggle Studies without taking class); as to
> the 12th, that hinges on whether you think she would bother with the
> Divinations test,...

Sandy:
I'm just curious why she'd bother with either, or what point it would 
serve in the story -- except to really irritate Ron, which is always 
fun. JKR has already told us that bravery and friendship are more 
important than books and cleverness. She's put her heroes in the 
house of the brave, not of the studious. She's shown us members of 
the 12 OWLs Club who aren't the best role models (Barty...) So why go 
through the trouble of getting HG to 11 or 12 OWLs?
Only time will tell, so I'm eagerly awaiting Harry's OWL owl in July..