Leaning on the Dursleys was Hogwarts Teachers -/Re: DD's dilemma - Protectio
dumbledore11214
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Sat Mar 19 03:15:10 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 126328
Alla earlier:
I definitely need to be convinced that Dumbledore's
interference with Dursleys would have been lethal for Harry and
for Harry only.
Pippin:
We have evidence of that already. Consider the upshot of the
letter campaign.Harry was stranded on an island out at sea in
the midst of a storm, with no shelter but a leaky hut and a thin
blanket, nothing to eat once the chips and the banana were
gone, no fuel, an armed and increasingly hysterical Uncle
Vernon , and no escape except a rowboat. I wouldn't give long
odds on any of the party surviving if the storm had kept up past
morning and Hagrid hadn't arrived.
Alla:
Oh, yes, I also think that it was dangerous but what I meant
under "lethal for Harry' was that Dursleys would have thrown him out
and I don't see that evidence in the text. Even using your example -
Dursleys did not threw Harry out when the letters start arriving ,
they run WITH him, which indeed makes me think that Dumbledore
promised them something - protection or something like that.
Lupinlore:
Well, the problem here Susan is that you put DD in an even worse
moral position. Not only does he do nothing, he has potential
specific leverage over the Dursleys and STILL does nothing.
Steve:
Perhaps I haven't followed this thread close enough, but I don't
understand your reply Lupinlore. How does SSSusan's comment put
Dumbledore in a worse moral position?
Before and after Voldemort's return, the Dursley's have some
spill-over protection from Harry's presences in their home.
Before the fact, that protection doesn't give Dumbledore much
leverage over the Dursleys because it is protection from something
that doesn't actually exist, confining the context to Voldemort for
the moment. The threat of withdrawing protection against a
hypothetical danger, is not much of a threat and therefore is not
much leverage.
<SNIP>
Alla:
I am going to give my reasons and my reasons only why I think it
puts Dumbledore in even worse moral position.
I disagree that before the fact such protection does not give
Dumbledore much leverage , because if Dursleys indeed accepted such
protection from the beginning , they were sufficiently scared of the
fact that Voldemort may come back even HYPOTHETICALLY. I think that
if Dumbledore threatened to withdrew such protection during those
ten years, it would have worked very nicely.
Dursleys accepted that protection when Voldemort was not back yet. I
submit that they would not have wanted to lose it whether Voldemort
was there or not.
And of course all of it is just speculation. We are not even sure
whether such protection was offered in the first place, although I
do think that Susan was convincing and something WAS offered to
Dursleys.
Just my opinion,
Alla
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