Snape, Harry and DE Children

Tue Mar 22 03:16:46 UTC 2005

No: HPFGUIDX 126420

> Alla:
(snip)
 I will give Snape more points if he WILL indeed treat Harry 
> the same, because then at least I will know that he is honest in 
not 
> being able to distinguish between two Potters. If he starts 
treating 
> Harry nicely in front of Albus, I can only call him a  hyppocrite, 
> who is scared enough of his boss to stop the bullying in front of 
> him, but continues doing so when nobody is there to protect he 
> students.

KarentheUnicorn's Reply:

I was thinking about Snape, and how he has treated Harry, and I 
though maybe he has been obvious of how he feels about Harry in 
front of Dumbledore, but he woulden't have the same opportunity in 
the same fashion, like in potions class.

But he has been rather odvious on how he feels, especially in the 
third book where he's railing on Harry and blaming him because 
Sirius gets away, and that was in front of DD and the Minister of 
Magic.

But there is so much more going on between Dumbledore and Snape that 
is not obvious yet. As an adult it would be nice to read private 
convesations between the adult characters, but since the book is 
from Harry's point, we never really get that.

But somehow I think Dumbledore is very much protecting Snape 
somehow, or is trying to change him or..I really don't know 
what..like in the very first book at the end when Harry is asking 
about Snape.
"And there's something else..."
"Fire away."
"Quirrell and Snape--"
"Professor Snape, Harry."

Ok, It seems Dumbledore wants Harry to give Snape respect by calling 
him Professor and not just Snape, but even after Harry knows and has 
figured out Snape was trying to actually help him in this book, he 
obviously can't get past the things that happened in the classroom, 
to me very much like Professor Snape who is not able to get past how 
Harry's dad treated him. The history between them already has put 
them against each other. Harry is a kid, he obviously didn't have 
very good parents in the Dursleys, so he had no reason to learn to 
say Thank You.

Of course Snape is an adult and should be able to see past this and 
just get over it, but I wonder why Dumbledore doesn't say more at 
this point to Harry, like, I know you can't understand, and you and 
Professor Snape do have your differences, but maybe it would be a 
good idea to offer Professor Snape your thanks for helping you..etc 
etc...or something like that. But on this note I'm wondering does 
Dumbledore know that Snape was helping Harry at the Quidditch match, 
does DD even know some of the things Snape was doing?
He does say to Harry in the same coversation from above "I do 
believe he worked so hard to protect you this year because he felt 
that would make him and your father even. Then he could go back to 
hating your father in peace..."

So, its obvious to me...he must have known a lot of what Snape was 
doing or why would he say he worked so hard to protect you? So, did 
Snape inform Dumbledore of the things he did...and if not how does 
Dumbledore know he worked so hard?..hum..(bangs head..wants more 
from adult characters...please..just one..one private conversation 
please!!...ok I know we get them when the kids are sneaking 
around..so can we have more invisible cloak action..teehee)

In the Chamber of Secrets we do see Snape give the three kids a hard 
time in front of the other Professors, hince the famous line from 
Dumbledore "Innocent until proven guilt, Severus." and right after 
DD said that the next line is Snape looked furious...
So I am thinking DD had to be looking at Snape....and I know DD 
knows furious when he sees it. So...I am wondering can't Dumbledore 
take Snape aside and say..give the kid a break he's only 12...or I 
know you have problems with the past that you and James share..but 
Harry is not james...or at least something to that effect...but do 
we see the private convesations...meh no..its a kids book...I must 
remember that! (laughs)

I really want to know more about Snape and Dumbledore's 
relationship, why he trusts Snape, why he seems inclined to give him 
so much slack in some situations, there is just something there. Ok, 
so Snape gave Dumbledore his story and DD believes him, at least 
thats what we got from JKR, so it must be a pretty good story. 
Either a really big truth or a really big lie..meh.

I mean, if this 'story' would prove to everyone why Snape is how he 
is, and his reasonings etc etc, why can't Dumbledore share it with 
Harry, what is the reason. All we get is.."Its Private"...ok, there 
has got to be more reason than that if you ask me. (thinks these 
adults are not very good on the communication level here, no wonder 
Harry doesn't tell people stuff..he is learning from the adults 
around him IMO) I don't know (pulls out hair, Is suffering from book 
withdrawal...dang it July 16..CURSE YOU FAR OFF DATE! BAIN OF MY 
EXISTANCE!)hehe
...but I'm sure since this is a group for grown up's...we are all 
more interested in the adult characters. Plus the questions I have 
are probably the same darn questions everyone else has.

So, until July 16, we will all pull out some hair, turn prematurely 
gray, curse the date of July 16, and surf the internet for every 
tidbit of news about the Infamous Half Blood Prince...To that I say, 
the HBP might not be Professor Snape or anyone for that matter...it 
might be a very tasty alcoholic beverage we will all want to drink 
before July 16th gets here.

So..who's up for designing a HBP drink??

KarentheUnicorn