Is Snape a "rules man"? (was: Snape and Raistlin Majere)
kiricat2001
Zarleycat at aol.com
Thu Mar 24 00:09:00 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 126502
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "cubfanbudwoman"
> Between some offlist correspondence and the comments phoenixgod
> provided in his follow-up post, I've decided that my blanket
> statement that Snape is a "rules man" was indeed probably going
> overboard. In fact, phoenixgod's take is probably most accurate:
> Snape is a rules man in the "petty hallmonitorish" sense. [LOVE
that
> phrase!]
>
> Many people agree with you, Hannah, that Snape seems bound by
*some*
> code and has a strong sense of *some* kind of justice, but that
it's
> his OWN. So perhaps the reason he tends to follow DD's
instructions
> is that it suits his own internal code, not necessarily that he's a
> rules follower across the board. And much of the rest of it would
> probably fall under the hall monitor category.
>
>
> Hannah:
> > Potions - something Snape has an exceptional talent for - seems
to
> > be all about following rules very exactly and precisely. Snape
> > also would appear to have a skill at logic, despite his
irrational
> > behaviour. Snape strikes me as the sort of man who would apply
> > logic so rigidly and absolutely that he actually ends up with
> > completely wrong conclusions when he applies it to something as
> > illogical as human nature and life in general.
>
>
> SSSusan:
> A point I agree with, Hannah. Think about the line in TMWSNBN,
where
> Sirius says to Snape, "Once again you've applied your keen &
> penetrating mind to the task and as usual come to the wrong
> conclusion." It may not be verbatim from JKR's text, but I think
it
> is an understandable accusation for someone to make against him.
> Logic, reason, "rules"-following all work tremendously well in
potion-
> making, but in assessing human behavior...?
>
Marianne:
Hmmmm...that last sentence, minus the reference to potion-making,
might even apply to Hermione...
But getting back to the rules question, I've always speculated that
part of Snape's irritation and anger with the Marauders stemmed not
only from the fact that they broke rules, but that whatever
punishment they received did not change their behavior. That could
feed on itself endlessly - MWPP do something and get caught, a
teacher gives them whatever punishment is deemed appropriate for the
crime of the moment, and the very next day or week, they go and break
some other rule. Eventually it drives Snape to distraction. I can see
this continuous cycle really getting up Snape's nose so that he comes
to feel they are never punished enough. It's just a short step from
there to thinking that they can get away with anything or that
Dumbledore is showing favoritism because they're Gryffindors when
really it was a case of the punishment never being a deterrent
because MWPP, or probably at least PP, didn't care about what the
school's authority.
Add to this if Snape knew, as he probably did, of instances when MWPP
did things and were never caught, and, thus, escaped punishment.
Again Snape could add this to the ledger of them getting away with
EVERYTHING.
Marianne
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