[HPforGrownups] In Defense of DD (was Re: DD's dilemma)

[Magda Grantwich]

No: HPFGUIDX 126562

>"Tonks" <tonks_op at y... wrote:

>> Also DD is able to control his emotions and Harry has not let 
>> learned to.  Controlling ones emotions so that those emotions can
>> not be used against you by someone like LV, is not the same as
>> not caring. DD is IMO able to acknowledge his feelings, but not 
>> let his feeling overpower him. We see from Harry's situation 
>> (being led to the MoM by LV) what can happen when one is not able 
>> to control emotions. 

> Lupinlore:
> I suppose a lot of it comes down to what you view as goodness.  Is
> a person who controls themselves and thus "floats above" the 
> ordinary fray of humanity good, or simply detached?  Does getting 
> involved in the pain and sorrow of life, including the pain of 
> others, make you lose perspective?  


I believe you are misunderstanding what Tonks said.

Harry's strong emotions upon (apparently) learning that Voldemort had
Sirius at the DoM and was torturing him overwhelmed all his other
faculties.  He became consumed with the urge to rescue Sirius
immediately and refused to listen to Hermione's very reasonable
questions about how such a situation had come about.  By going with
his feelings over his logic and intellect - both in analyzing whether
his vision was plausible and in determining a realistic plan of
action - Harry surrendered important points to Voldemort before he
ever left Hogwarts.  

This is the point that Snape makes to Harry in his little urgent
sermon about "weak fools" who let Voldemort feed off their emotions. 
However Snape came to join the DE's, he made it easy for Voldemort to
recruit him because he wore his resentments, his desires, his
feelings so openly that he didn't realize he was being manipulated
until it was too late.

(Just for the record, I believe that's how Voldemort got a lot of the
DE's: he manipulated their pureblood snobbery until it was
transformed into a personal loyalty to him - until, that is, they
came to associate doing Voldemort's will as automatically being bad
for muggles and muggle-borns.  Voldemort has blinded them to the
possibility that if they really thought about it, attacking and
bringing down other purebloods isn't exactly consistent with what
he's espousing, and that tossing them an occasional bone (no
graveyard pun intended) in the form of regular episodes of
recreational muggle murders doesn't hide the fact that he has other
goals.

Put it this way: the DE's might have joined because they wanted
wizard society cleaned up and the muggleborn/halfblood contingent
removed, either entirely or at least beaten down into a servile
minority while purebloods took their rightful places at the top of
the heap.  But I really doubt that the DE's had any problem with the
idea of the heap or were looking to really transform society.  They
haven't twigged yet to the fact that Voldemort wants to transform
their society according to his own lights.

I think this was what Snape figured out - and what Dumbledore knew
all along.  Snape put 2+2 together and finally got the wrong sum, and
it was this part of what JKR called "his story" that he gave to
Dumbledore that caused Dumbledore to believe him.)

I thought you made a lot of very good points, Tonks. 

Magda


		
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