Founders in DD's Office/Necromancy & Chaos Magick

Chys Sage Lattes yami69hikari at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 27 03:04:17 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 126657




> Tonks:
>> Now I know that JKR does not want to lead anyone, child or 
> otherwise, to the Dark side, but I still wonder if this portrait 
> thing isn't a form of Necromancy.
> 
> For those here who may not be aware of this so called Dark Art, let 
> me explain. Necromancy is where a wizard calls the spirits of the 
> other world. They can be the dead or some form of spirit that lives 
> only on the other side of the veil. They are called demons, but not 
> in the Jewish/Christian sense of the word. The wizard draws a 
circle 
> around himself with protective symbols around it so that the demon 
> cannot hurt him.  Then he calls the demon to do his bidding, often 
> transmitting messages and gathering information.  I really don't 
> know a lot about this, but I have a very old *Wizard* friend that 
> does.  ;-)
> 
> So while Necromancy is often thought of as a Dark Art (the demon 
has 
> no free choice), if the former Headmasters were given a choice at 
> one point and made a vow to be used by the current Headmaster, then 
> DD could engage in this practice.  But I think if JKR was using 
this 
> bit of Wizardry she would hide it very carefully.  
> 
> This also can be a clue as to why pictures cannot be used but 
> portraits can.  Maybe there is something of the subject (lock of 
> hair, finger nail, blood, etc.) in the portrait that makes the 
> subject part of their own portrait in a way that they would not be 
> in a picture.  And in this way the portrait can be used in much the 
> same way as the Necromancer would use the demon.
> 
> Tonks_op

Chys:
It's popular (At least in several HP fics I have read,) That 
Ravenclaw has something to do with Necromancy because of the RAVEN 
subject, involving death and such. Is there any Canon to back this up?

The ring and demon summoning sounds like chaos magic to me. (Chaos 
being simply a collection of many types of diverse magicks all in 
one, as far as I can tell. I'm not that into it as to know all the 
forms and terminology yet, only a little here and there. It doesn't 
seem to requre that much of a commitment, now that I think of it- You 
can change your religion on a dime with this, should you so desire to 
pray to another 'god' for any purpose. ^_^;)

Perhaps the subjects of the portraits were still alive when the 
portraits were created and they simply 'charged' them with their own 
energy, rather than having their blood in the paint? (Which is also 
possible, I'd assume.) Seeing as it's a world of true magic, I don't 
see how this wouldn't be possible.

(For those who don't know of the chaos magic IRL, it's just like 
giving -thesubject- a part of yourself so that it can work for your 
will. 'Sigils' can be used this way, charged in various fashions to 
perform for the will of the creator and 'charge' something into 
effect. You could use it as a chant to simply change your mood and 
meditate before an important event ie- 'I will get the job, I will 
get the job' .... but getting your sibling to wash the dishes for you 
seems to be the most popular [and surprisingly effective!!] method of 
Sigil use in my house, anyway....) 

Or perhaps they are ancient Servitors of some fashion, summoned by 
the founders and taking the form of a portrait's subject, which would 
explain why they serve the Headmasters and current Headmaster only?

Ah, I don't know, just wondering.

Chys










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