The prophecy - a maverick view....

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 128393

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister"
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:

> But then we reach "and either must die at the hand of the other for 
> neither can live while the other survives". This to me is a 
> contradiction in terms. Both Harry and Voldemort are alive. This 
> contradicts the prophecy; one of them should be dead and one should 
> be surviving
. So what do we make of this? 

Valky:
Well here's an Irony for that question? By the prophecy, if it is not
a contradiction of the facts (place my bet now that it reflects the
facts more than anything else we know), then one of these people
(Harry/Voldemort) is already dead... What if it's The boy who "Lived",
hey if misdirection is theoretically tradition employed here there's a
really good chance that Harry IS Dead already.. 

Geoff: 
> To put one more ingredient into the recipe, the use of the 
> word "live". In the Macbeth prophecy, we saw that the use of the 
> word "born" was not what we expected. Coming at "live" from a 
> different angle, Jesus remarked at one point "I have come that they 
> may have life and have it to the full" (John 10:10). Could this mean 
> that, say, Harry could not live life to the full, to have a 
> satisfying and normal life while Voldemort remained and had not been 
> dealt with? Could this be that his life will be constricted and 
> hedged about and thus not as fulfilled as it ought to be for the 
> moment? This might be a possibility to answer the paradox of both 
> living while both also survive.
> 

Valky:
I've heard this angle before, and I think it's, well, weak. I am
inclined to believe that JKR wouldn't bother finishing the series if
the twist at the end was this because it doesn't hold a candle to the
ingeniusness of the individual books. I am pretty certain we can
dismiss this altogether because you just don't have to think hard
enough to get to this conclusion, Sooo not Jo Rowling. Sorry Geoff but
if JKR says someone's dead they're dead ;D remember.




> I think I've confused myself even more now
..

We've all done that with this prophecy thing. Its a challenge thats
for sure.