Snape and Neville/ Does Snape help students reach their true potential?
dumbledore11214
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Mon May 2 14:40:03 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 128406
Betsy:
I don't think I know what you mean by bringing out the best in the
students. Best what? Understanding of Potions? Hermione has
certainly had her knowledged stretched. She's learned about potions
way beyond her level based on comments made within Snape's lectures.
She's also been challenged to be at her best with every single potion
she makes. Neville's best seems to be a potion that doesn't harm his
neighbors, and IIRC his potions were fairly harmless in OotP.
Alla:
I for the most part agree with what Susan said in her reply, but I
specifically wanted to comment on " Neville's best".
How do you know that Neville's best seems to be a potion that does
not
harm his neighbors?
Is Neville REALLY that hopeless in Potions or maybe a teacher of whom
he is terrified makes him to be that hopeless?
There is IMO a possible hint in canon ( and I realise that this is a
hint nothing more) that Neville's true potential in Potions is so
much
higher than what he shows in Snape's classes.
Neville performs remarkably well in Herbology classes. Now, I am not
saying that those two classes are the same, far from it, BUT both
Herbology and Potions deal with plants, herbs, A LOT.
To me the fact that Neville does well in Herbology says not only that
he does better under Professor Sprout, but also that he MAY BE
interested in what can be done with plants and herbs in their
different
capacity, such as how to make potions with them.
Nope, I am not sure that Snape helps Neville reach his true
potential,
not sure at all.
Susan:
When Harry entered Snape's class, he had no reason to dislike Snape,
yet Snape has fostered a loathing and mistrust that have made Harry
SHUT DOWN, rather than work hard. Is that partially Harry's fault?
You betcha. But were Snape's actions and his continual, across-FIVE-
years, fostering of that animosity the mark of a *good* teacher? Not
to me.
Alla:
I agree 99.99% with your post, except that I don't see any fault on
Harry's actions in first class. :-)
Harry is guilty of misgivings in his dealings with Snape later on,
although often not those that Snape wants to punish him for, but I
firmly convinced that in that first lesson he was absolutely
blameless
and that was the lesson that set tone to their relationship.
Just my opinion of course,
Alla.
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