Christianity in HP / Snape-like teachers

[a_svirn]

No: HPFGUIDX 128455

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Bannister" 
<gbannister10 at a...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "a_svirn" <a_svirn at y...> 
wrote:
> 
> a_svirn:
>  
> > Although I don't think myself that HP is any kind of 
a "Christian 
> > story", I can't agree with your reasoning. A story doesn't have 
to 
> > be ABOUT Christians to be considered "Christian". Take the Holy 
> > Bible for instance: true, the Gospels tell us story about 
Christ, 
> > but not necessarily about Christians. And the rest of it 
concerns 
> > Jews and their affairs.   
> 
> Geoff:
> Hopefully not appearing rude, I would suggest that your coment is 
a 
> contradiction in terms.
> 
> I think that for a story to be (overtly) Christian, it has got to 
> include Christians. It can, of course, as in the case of HP and 
LOTR, 
> be based on Christian foundations which would fit your pattern.
> 
> Your Bible illustration is not quite accurate. The Gospels tell us 
> the history of Christ's life in human form on Earth while the rest 
of 
> the New Testament tells of his followers who took up the job of 
> disseminating the teaching he had given to them to the rest of 
their 
> world. Most disciples were, I agree, Jewish right at the beginning 
> but Messianic Jews taking the new ideas to others.
> 
> The section conerning "Jews and their affairs" is really the Old 
> Testament.

Since we are speaking of contradictions here, let's disentangle your 
statement. 

1)Concerning the Gospels.

a. Your major premise: A Christian story has got to include 
Christians.  
b. Your minor premise: "The Gospels tell us
the history of Christ's life in human form on Earth"
c. Then your conclusion must be: the Gospels are NOT a Christian 
story. (Unless you claim that Christ was Christian? You seem to 
agree that this is not the case).

2) Concerning the rest of the New Testament. Since the very 
word "Christian" is used only three times there, out of which once 
by pagans (Acts 11:26), and only once actually by a disciple (I 
Peter 4:16), and not exactly in a sense we are using it now: "Yet if 
any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed ...", I'd say 
that claiming that the rest of the New Testament is about Christians 
is stretching the point a bit too far.

3) Concerning the "Jews and their affairs". So far that I am aware 
The Old Testament is a part of the Holy Bible and the Bible is THE 
Christian Book par excellence. Am I wrong? If so, I beg your pardon.

a_svirn