The Whole Picture - and a Prophesy (long)

Tonks tonks_op at yahoo.com
Mon May 9 02:03:53 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 128660

I know we have debated this bit by bit, but I am going to try to 
pull it all together here in one post.  I fear that it will be a 
long one.  Also I invite others to do so as well for other 
religions, because I do think that there are symbols of other 
religions here as well, but they are not as obvious to me.  So I 
invite someone to write from a Jewish prospective, a Buddhist 
perspective, and so on.  Please don't mix them up.  I think that JKR 
may have mixed them in her cauldron and I would like to take the 
potion apart and look at the elements.
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Christian Symbolism in the Harry Potter books
(abbreviation:  XC mean Christ)

DD is the equivalent of God
LV is the equivalent of Satan
There is probably something beyond the veil in the other world of 
the Ancient Magic that is the Source of both DD's goodness and LV's 
evil, but what we see visible in the world is in DD and LV.  One 
could say the Essence of Good and the Essence of Evil exist in that 
other world, but the energies of Good/God and of Evil/Satan are 
visible to us in this world in the persons of DD and LV. 

Harry is Everyman to both WW and MW (all of us), but with Love 
dwelling within him.  His WW counter would be Draco (a pure blood 
wizard) who is Everyman without the indwelling Love.  And his MW 
counter is Dudley (a pure blood Muggle) is Everyman in the Muggle 
world without the indwelling Love.  The 3 of them serve as examples 
of how one handles the problems of life in whatever world that you 
live in.

Both DD and LV have lessons to teach us.  DD teaches us about Love 
in all of the little *wise words of wisdom* that he give Harry.  And 
LV teaches us about Hate in his discourses.  LV teaches us that 
Power is everything and death is to be feared.  DD says there are 
worse things than death and doing the right thing even if it is hard 
is better than taking the easy way.  And Peter also shows us what 
happens to someone who took the easy way instead of dying for what 
he believed and for his friends.  Throughout the series DD and LV 
are battling for our attention and our trust.  But the main battle 
is between DD and LV within the heart, mind and soul of Harry.  Only 
Harry can defeat LV within himself.  They are somewhat like the idea 
of the demon on one shoulder and an angel on the other, whispering 
to us "do this",  and "no do that".  And the final choice is ours. 

Harry has much Love within him which he got from his mother.  We 
know this because he has his mother's eyes.  And Lily had the eyes 
of Love and Compassion.  

Lily = Love = XC = child of God (also of both worlds. A witch from 
Muggle parents. A mud-blood.)
Tom Riddle = Hate = Surpant = child of Satan (also of both world. A 
half-blood)

"One must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while 
the other survives." 

That night at GH part of LV went into Harry, but LV could not take 
over Harry because part of Lily was in Harry also. Part of XC was in 
Harry. And the ancient magic know to Lily is that Love is greater 
than all of the greatest evil.  Lily trusted the Ancient magic with 
her life and soul  and the life and soul of her son.  LV may have 
known that there was something about Lily that could protect her 
from him and for this reason he did not try to kill her.  Or perhaps 
he simply didn't want to take the time to kill her.  But when she 
would not step aside, he became impatient and just killed her to get 
her out of the way. And that act of freely giving her life increased 
the Love that was in Harry. Lily's sacrifice is similar to that of 
Jesus on the cross. 

The marauders are James, John, Peter and Sirius.  And Lily is a 
symbol of XC.  Her giving her life for Harry is a symbol of XC 
death.  The reason for this is that the Lily is a white flower 
symbol of purity in much the same way as an unblemished lamb is the 
symbol of purity in the Jewish faith. Lily is also the traditional 
Easter flower. Jesus was called the lamb of God, Lily serves the 
same purpose.  She did not have to die; Jesus did not have to die.  
Both could have prevented their death. Jesus by a band of angels and 
Lily by stepping aside (or perhaps by some magic know to her and to 
LV.)  So we have Lily = XC and the people around her have names of 
the primary disciples of Jesus.  Peter is probably the symbol of 
Judas as another poster has suggested.  Sirius is a star in the 
constellation of Leo.  Leo = Lion, and Jesus is the Lion of Judah.  
Also in the book of Revelation it says that a rod (son) will come 
from the root of Jesse. Here this refers to the second coming of 
Jesus.  Another more modern word for Jesse is James. Therefore, in 
the end time, at the final battle the leader of the battle will be 
the son of James.  The son of James in our story is Harry.  The 
final battle will be in book 7 just as in Revelations the final 
battle happens when the 7th seal is opened.  (There are many other 
symbols of the book of Revelation in the HP books, but I will not go 
into them here.)

Each book name has a XC symbol.  SS/PS is the quest for eternal 
life.  (John Granger has written a book explaining the XC symbols of 
Alchemy in HP. Alchemy in the Renascence was accepted as a practice 
that united you with God through purification of your soul. In the 
Middle Ages many well know Christians practiced Alchemy including 
Thomas Aquinas.)  CS is both the tomb of man in the person of Adam 
and Eve and the tomb of XC.  It is the symbol of both the sin in the 
garden complete with snake and the "new Adam" of XC overcoming death 
by the power of the Love of God through the resurrection represented 
by Faulks. PA is the symbol of the prison we are all in where we are 
tormented by Dementors day in and day out.  Jesus taught us to "what 
so ever things are good, what so ever things are pure, think on 
these things," which is the way of overcoming the Dementors.  GF is 
a symbol of the chalice used by XC at the last supper.  The chalice 
is wood in both cases and in GF it has a flame in it that does not 
consume the wood.  A non-consuming flame is the XC symbol of God.  
OP is a symbol of the Church (AKA the body of XC on earth) since the 
phoenix is the sign of XC and the order is composed of all sorts of 
ragamuffins that are battling the forces of evil in the world and in 
themselves.  DD give a gift to the giants of the "everlasting fire" 
which is the same thing as the non-consuming flame, and a symbol of 
God the Father. HBP is by the name alone a symbol of Jesus as He was 
both God and man and the Prince of Peace and King of Heaven.


Now my Prediction:  I think the last book will be called "The Final 
Battle". In the end, in book 7 LV will kill Ron and perhaps Hermione 
also.  And Harry will have to overcome the anger and hate within 
himself to show Love and forgiveness to LV and this is what will 
defeat LV.  Because Love and Hate can not exist at the same 
time.  "One must die at the hand of the other" Hate must die at the 
hand of Love, or Love must die at the hand of Hate.  Harry has had a 
very hard life and yet in spite of his trials and struggles, trials 
so terrible that it even bring a tear to DD,  Harry comes out time 
and again on the side of Love.  At times Harry is kicking and 
screaming like us all, but in the end it is Love that wins.  It is 
Love that he chooses. And he always has the choice to choose Hate 
over Love.  The choosing of Love is always harder.  Often it is a 
real sacrifice, sometimes even unto death.  Harry may die, or he may 
not.  I think that JKR hints that he will die a physical death.  She 
may be doing this to prepare us for that or to play with us, which 
she loves to do.  But either way we will see a death of LV within 
Harry, because of Harry's choice to respond to the most intense and 
brutal Hatred with forgiving Love.

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