[HPforGrownups] Re: Chapter Fourteen of HBP; aka Lupinlore's Big OOPS

[theotokos]

No: HPFGUIDX 128703

Barmaid:  In regard to my point "a" what I am trying to get at is that I do not see anything in canon that indicates that the ticket thing would be viewed as "corruption" within the value system in which Arthur operates. [snip]
I am very interested in these sorts of inconsistencies, in 
particular as we enter a "war" I am very interested in having a clear handle on how "unforgivable" the Unforgivable Curses are generally thought to be.  
As to Barty Sr. and his clear lapses.... my sense (and yes, I know 
this is only MY sense) has always been that this is more of an 
indictment of him as an individual, and [emphasis by theotokos]
*********an exploration of how those fighting against "the bad guys" can lose sight of what it is that distinguishes them from the bad guys in the first place***********************
rather than a broad criticism of "government" in general. [snip] However, it also seems that an argument could be made that JKR does *not* see even this as a real problem, but rather just a humorous bit of irony.

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And, barmaid, to follow along with your point, when Harry was talking to Sirius about how evil that Umbridge-woman is, Sirius tells him that the world is not made up of good people and death eaters.  This is a very important lesson for everyone to learn.  I remember growing up and having to come to terms with the fact that people are not always right, nor are they always wrong.  Good people can cause harm, and bad people can love.  One of the major threads of these books that I have loved discussing with my daughter is how different everyone is and yet they can be friends.  Even while ribbing each other, and getting mad at each other, and so on--they can get on together.  It is a basic way to teach our kids that the world is complicated.
 
I wish I could be more prosaic but it is late here and I am going to bed.  I hope I don't get torn down to bad--well, really thats just me trying to be polite--I really don't care.  'Night all.
 
Theotokos



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