Voldemort's recruitment . Was: Precious little to celebrate for 11 years...

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Siriusly Snapey Susan wrote:
>>The idea of a coup d'etat within the DE ranks at some point is
interesting. I wonder about old slippery Lucius. Perhaps if that
did happen, he was still young enough to not be seen as much of a
threat by Voldy? Because I so *do* see him as one who's power-
hungry. <<

Rebecca:
Lucius always seems sort of suscipcious to me as well. The comparison 
has been made here before between him and Number 2 in the Austin 
Powers movies, which fits in a way. He was a lot better off before 
Voldemort came back. Voldemort, like a lot of evil overlords, doesn't 
make the best decisions all the time. I'm sure if it were up to 
Malfoy the whole dueling thing in the graveyard wouldn't have 
happened, and I'm sure it wasn't *his* idea to hang out in the DoM 
(though he probably enjoyed disabling the guards). 

SSSusan:
>>I think, for instance, that his CoS diary stunt was all
about trying to play for his own power and not at all about bringing
back Voldy.<<

Rebecca:
That's curious. What do you think he could have been trying to do? 
Just get rid of Dumbledore? If he did, and got Snape, or some 
other "dark" person as the new Headmaster (of course he thinks Snape 
is still on the DE side), he would have suceeded in taking over 
Hogwarts, which is something Voldemort never even attempted. 

SSSusan:
>>So I guess, to your question of why would someone join the baddies,
knowing the tendency for baddie leaders to "eliminate" not just
enemies but fellows who tick them off, I would suggest the power-
crazed individual. *Particularly* a power-crazed individual who is
so confident in his own ability to manipulate and to play a part that
he believes he can *convince* the current Chief Evil Guy of his
loyalty, while all the while planning his own takeover at the key
moment.<<

Rebecca:
Yes, Lucius falls right into that catagory. Another comparison could 
be Saruman in LOTR. Lucius *thinks* that Voldemort has no idea about 
his (possibe) takeover plans. I'm sure Voldemort knows that Malfoy is 
disloyal deep down (as many of his followers might be, they are, 
after all, mostly Slytherins and we know Slytherins aren't known for 
their loyalty). Hmm, I wonder if it'll come down to Voldemort killing 
Lucius, or if Lucius will end up in Azkaban at the end of the series. 
Killing would certainly be more interesting.

I think the other catagory for the ones who joined the DEs would have 
to be the ones who joined looking for a little power, and then just 
became sort of brain-washed by Voldemort, like they are inside a 
cult. This is what appears happened to Bellatrix and Crouch Jr. Both 
of them are beyond sanity (though Crouch Jr. might have been okay 
*before* he was imprisoned in his father's house for over ten years). 
There's a sort of hero worship surrounding them and Voldemort, its 
got to be that extreme hatred of Muggles and "Muggle-Lovers" like 
Dumbledore. Voldemort is the one telling them that all their crazy 
prejudices are perfectly fine to have, and that its equally fine to 
act on them. No wonder Bellatrix loves him. 

-Rebecca / HunterGreen