Lusting After Snape
potioncat
willsonkmom at msn.com
Sun May 22 04:05:31 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 129298
Lusting after Snape
Alla has Elkins, Potioncat has Prophyria. I've found a post from
2002, but first, an introduction:
In one of her interviews, JKR says something along the line of
"Who could love Snape?" Kneasy believed the appeal for Snape was
that Alan Rickman portrayed him in the medium that must not be named.
I have to admit anyone Alan Rickman portrayed would be appealing to
me.Even a heart surgeon
OK, wrong web site
The question has come up many times. Snape is not described in
appealing ways, yet he has a large fan base. What is his appeal? Back
in 2002 Prophyria took on the challenge of "why is Snape so
appealing to so many women?". Here is the post #47913:
Long ago, back on 10/3 (#44915), GulPlum noted that a preponderance of
Snape's (and Sirius's and Lupin's) fans were female. He
wondered "whether it's because men generally seem not to go beyond
the obvious, the broad strokes, while women seem to be more
interested in hints and background characters?" Then he
wondered "<treading on more dangerous ground> Or
are women principally going for characters who might conform to or
fulfill their sexual fantasies?"
He remarked:
> I'm honestly curious about what people's views on the above are and
why (beyond the usual literary reasons) we feel attracted to the
characters who appeal to us.
I wanted to answer this long ago but didn't have time, and since
today it came up in an offlist discussion and I *do* have a bit of
time, I thought I'd answer it now. I shall necessarily generalize
about gender roles from my own perspective in the paragraphs below;
if you disagree with me please argue your own view but please don't
take offense where there is none intended.
For starters, my whole reply is predicated on the belief that, very
often, people prefer characters with whom they identify. This can be
positive or negative; we like characters who embody the
characteristics we wish to have, and we feel deep empathy for
characters who embody our own faults.Well, I'm sure some people
*hate* characters who embody their own faults,but I for one love them
quite pathetically, and I know I'm not alone.
I would also like to add, re GulPlum's question about sexual
fantasies,that infatuation with literary characters has *nothing to
do* with sexual attraction in its simplest sense. These characters
have no physical presence; they do not infect us with their
pheromones or put the moves on us. They are only as attractive as we
imagine them. Our impression of them is rooted purely in language,
which means it is symbolic and analyzable.Otherwise, we'd all have
hopeless crushes on Gilderoy Lockhart, which does not seem to be the
case. :-) Snape, in particular, *is supposed to be ugly,
* so there must be something *else* going on with his legion of female
crushers for them to feel as they do.
The following is only one theory among many for Snape's appeal, but I
think it's worth giving a shot: Snape is the cast-off animus of an
individual who has been socialized as female. OK, plain English: Snape
appeals to some women because he is exactly what a woman cannot be if
she is to be recognized as "feminine" in our society.
Let's consider Snape's depiction in the books. We know from some
offhand remarks that Snape is considered brilliant in his field:
Lupin's explanation of how difficult Wolfsbane Potion is to brew,
Sirius's admission that Snape knew more curses as a child, etc. We
also get the impression he's brilliant from his poetic, mannered
speech, his pride in his craft and, via Real Life contamination, he
reminds us of that type of professor who would much rather be
researching than teaching. So, he strikes me as being the Potterverse
equivalent of a brilliant scientist.
However, what is is we typically see Snape doing? He gets to teach 11
year olds Boil-Curing Potion *over and over and over.* He has to herd
them from class to class when there is some danger in the castle. He
has to keep them in line and break up fights. He has to babysit. He
has to make sure they get medical treatment when they injure
themselves, and protect them from their own recklessness. And, in
what I think is one of the series' moments of pure comic genius,
Snape has to play hyper-conscientious nursemaid to Lupin, someone
he'd just as soon poison.
Now, being a grade school teacher, a caretaker and a nurse are all
noble professions, but do they suit Snape's personality? No, they
require patience, compassion, empathy and affection, all qualities he
notably lacks. He is deeply unsuited for his job. Snape appears to
despise little children and resents being stuck 'taking care of'
people who need extra attention like Lupin, Harry or Neville. He
doesn't seem to have a nurturing bone in his body. But he is
protective and dutiful, and his job duties wrench appropriate
behavior out of his as best as he can manage (which often isn't very
well).
So my argument states that Snape appeals to *some* women who feel
frustrated that society, their families, or life in general obliges
them into a caretaker role when they privately feel that they are
better suited for more intellectual work. Some of these women might
reject caretaker roles for themselves, and others might be *extremely
dutiful* mothers,teachers and nurses who simply feel the pressure to
be compassionate and tender-hearted all the time. It's a heavy burden
for anyone not 100% sweetness and light in the first place. But what
if women actually acted like Snape! It's hardly an option for any of
us who care about what our loved ones think of us. (If only the world
were as accepting as Dumbledore!
) So Snape is deliciously enjoyable because, as a literary character,
he can get away with all the nastiness he wants and we can enjoy it
vicariously without actually hurting anyone in the Real World.
So I think the reason that the vast majority of Snape's admirers are
female is that he represents the vindictive, resentful flipside of the
"female" role that is foreclosed to real women who feel obliged to
appear "feminine" by typical cultural standards. I think this
explains why some of Snape's fans are infatuated straight women, but
also why some of his fans are lesbians. I also think this explains
why some female readers *despise* Snape, because he constitutes an
absolute scandal for someone entrusted with the role of rearing young
people. (It's not a subject women typically feel neutral about.) And
lastly, I think this explains why so few (to my knowledge) of Snape's
fans are gay men, because (I imagine) they have a whole ton of other
gender-role obligations to contend with,which have nothing to do with
Snape's character. Same probably goes for straight men. :-)
Again, that's only one theory among many possible for why people like
his character, and it need not apply to absolutely everyone. Let me
know what you think.
~Porphyria
Potioncat again:
I have to admit, having a son about the age of Harry, I love the
scene when Snape throws/magicks the jar of cockroaches at Harry.
I'd love to do that too! Of course I wouldn't throw anything at my
own son
after all, I'd be the one to clean up all those
cockroaches
but it does offer a certain sense of satisfaction.
So, I'll ask the same question Porphyria asked: What do you think?
Potioncat: who will delete this post if it appears with odd symbols
due to some e-interference.
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