Things... to see in H.B.P. - Apparation

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 129302

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, chnc1024 at A... wrote:
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> In a message dated 5/21/2005 12:15:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,  
> bboyminn at y... writes:
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> bboyminn:
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> <Sniped> So, here is the foundation of my thinking on Apparation 
> class.
> 
> It's true you can't get your licenses to  Apparate until you are 17, 
> <snip> Students are not allowed to use magic outside of school 
> because they are underage, yet in school, under the  supervision of 
> qualified teachers, they are allowed to do all kinds of magic.  Why 
> would Apparation magic be any different?
> 
> <snip>
> So,  everyone who is 16 at the time the lessons are given will be 
> able to learn Apparation. That IS my story, and I AM sticking to 
> it.  ;)
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> Steve/bboyminn



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> Chancie:
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> I do agree that students should receive actual training for 
> Apparation. However, I'm afraid that it would be impossible 
> to do this in a class or on the grounds of Hogwarts, simply
> because you *CANT* apparate in the castle or on the grounds.
>
> ...  I also do agree that the students *should* have time to learn 
> Apparation before the test ..., I'm just not sure of 
> where/how this could be done.


bboyminn:

This will be a short post and I am repeating myself, but you have
brought up a point that was also brought up by another person, so
perhaps it is justified.

You missed my earlier post, where I pointed out that all you have to
do is step outside the front gate and you can Apparate. The large open
area between the gates and the train station could be used for a
practice field, and if necessary the train station itself could be
used for a classroom.

> Chancie continues:
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> And also, Harry will be turning 16 in July, that means that both 
> Hermione and Ron are already 16. I'm sure if there were any type of 
> Apparation class open to 16 year olds, that at least Hermione would 
> be enrolled. We've heard nothing on that, subject, so I'm of the 
> thinking that there is now Apparation learner's permit, though I 
> could be wrong.
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>  
> Chancie

bboyminn:

In my view there are two conditions for being able to learn to
Apparate; you must be 16 at the time the classes are given and you
must be in NEWT level classes, meaning 6th or 7th year. 

So even though Hermione was 16 last year (last book year) she was
still studying at OWL level and was not eligible to take the classes.

The next point is, it's VERY true we have never heard anything about
Apparation classes, I suspect part of the reason is that the
author/editors didn't want to clutter the books with one more detail.
Another is that JKR didn't want to reveal the details of Apparation in
the earlier books. Further, we see things from Harry's perspective, so
unless he was aware of Apparation classes, we wouldn't have heard
about it. I do find this slightly 'flinty', as you would have expected
someone at sometime to have mentioned something about it.

None the less, students must some how learn how to do this. It has
already been make very clear that this is dangerous and difficult, and
I have to suspect it's far more complicated than learning to drive a
car. So, I don't think a 'few hours behing the wheel' is going to cut
it. I suspect there is a lot of theory, and a lot of things to
consider. At one point I vaguely remember hearing that the position of
the moon must be taken into consideration when plotting your arrival
location. I've never been able to find that reference, so it could
have been fan fiction, but it does reflect a preception that it is a
very complicated affair. So, my conclusion is that it is a class that
will last minimum one or more terms; perhaps, one term - theory, and
one term - practice.

Further re-enforcing that students learning at school is that everyone
we have seen so far, and taken their test during the summer in which
they are 17. That implies that when summer arrived, they were ready to
go, fully prepared to take the test. The only time they could have
gotten prepared is during the school year.

At least, I hope that's how it goes.

Steve/bboyminn